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Old 04-22-2015, 12:43 PM   #1
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Default Players' Tribune - Daniel Carcillo on Steve Montador

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/nhl...ontador-video/

Powerful stuff. Recommend you watch the video.
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Old 04-22-2015, 12:54 PM   #2
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Very powerful stuff
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Old 04-22-2015, 12:55 PM   #3
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Yep, take 5 minutes out of your day and watch it. Pretty powerful.
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Old 04-22-2015, 01:02 PM   #4
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Good on him to do that interview and write the article. Hopefully it serves as a wake up call to the PA and league. These guys spend their whole lives working towards playing in the NHL, once that's over I imagine the lack of purpose and hopelessness would be overwhelming.
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Here is an embedded video. Very, very important. Glad to see tough guys open up and get a real discussion going about their physical and mental wellbeing.

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Old 04-22-2015, 01:11 PM   #6
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http://www.theplayerstribune.com/nhl...ontador-video/

Powerful stuff. Recommend you watch the video.
Great watch, thanks. There was a great interview from Rhett as well on Fan960 too.
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This was a very necessary and touching article. I can't believe the NHL doesn't have a program offered to retired players with post concussion issues. Even just a support program would do wonders I'm sure. If it can help prevent something like this, it'll be well worth it.
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To play devil's advocate, why is it the NHLs job? Shouldn't that fall to the union????
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To play devil's advocate, why is it the NHLs job? Shouldn't that fall to the union????
100% agree with this.

You are signing a contract for services rendered with a team, for a specified period. A union is supposed to be a brotherhood of sorts.
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To play devil's advocate, why is it the NHLs job? Shouldn't that fall to the union????
It is the league that is offering them money to sacrifice their health. That said, you bet the NHLPA should be involved and it is the union's responsibility to ensure that the NHL is living up to that obligation. That's what collective bargaining is for.
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Old 04-22-2015, 01:32 PM   #11
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Heart breaking... I havnt been able to watch the video yet but i can only imagine how tough it will be.

Currently, I have one of my best friends who is also in the military who did an absolutley incredible and almost unheard of thing in the military and that was admit that he has a substance abuse problem. He is currently at a facility for treatment which i am unbelievably proud of him for.
I dont even want to imagine what things would be like if my winger was gone over something like substance abuse.

To all of those who are or know of someone who is suffering from a substance abuse issue, my heart truly goes out to you and dont ever give on them or yourself.

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To play devil's advocate, why is it the NHLs job? Shouldn't that fall to the union????
I would think all involved have a vested interest in supporting players, but do agree that the Union should be driving this. These guys are independent contractors and the union should be the glue supporting these guys.

I remember Warrener saying the minute the season started and he didn't have a contract, his NHLPA logins were locked out and access to resources were significantly reduced. That is brutal, but based on my experience with unions (as a member and later on management side) not a surprise at all. Once the dues stop flowing... see you later.
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To play devil's advocate, why is it the NHLs job? Shouldn't that fall to the union????
I think Carcillo talks about the NHLPA and their lack of responsibility. Just hard to hear about people who are looked to be heroes only to have essentially nobody in their time of need.
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I just see people blame corporations for problems often, but sometimes the "blame" should go elsewhere. The teams and the players are mutually obligated to previous for each other via contract. Once that's done, you don't see the players offering to help the clubs in any way. The paternal view we have of employers extends too far IMO
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It's not even just the guys with concussion issues. What does an athlete do when father time catches up? So many are unprepared for this.
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Respect to Dan Carcillo.
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Old 04-22-2015, 04:31 PM   #17
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Can I ask a sensitive question? Was Montador's death a suicide? It hasn't been talked about much, but did I read that investigators ruled out suicide and foul play soon after. The way Carcillo talked about it in this video made me think it was suicide.

If so, I think it's important to talk about it and acknowledge it. The more it's kept in the shadows, the harder it is for the next guy facing severe depression.
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Old 04-23-2015, 07:06 AM   #19
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does it really surprise anyone that the NHLPA doesn't appear to care once you are out of the game? once you aren't a due paying member, it appears you are sadly forgot about.... very sad story. Montador seemed like a decent guy.
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Can I ask a sensitive question? Was Montador's death a suicide? It hasn't been talked about much, but did I read that investigators ruled out suicide and foul play soon after. The way Carcillo talked about it in this video made me think it was suicide.

If so, I think it's important to talk about it and acknowledge it. The more it's kept in the shadows, the harder it is for the next guy facing severe depression.
Suicides often aren't disclosed because they lead to more suicides.
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