Thank You Jay Feaster!

[Hack&Lube]

He did a good job but I think Burke sank him for a few questionable moves and picks such as the attempted Ryan O'Reilly affair, the return for Iginla, Jankowski, etc. As always, we'll see how things pan out.

I am however, hoping that he continues to get credit for the core of this team and I wish he could have been kept/rewarded in some capacity. The fact that he continues to constantly support the Flames and public-ally communicate that support makes it impossible to dislike him.

[Hack&Lube]

edit - double post

[CliffFletcher]

Feaster cleaned up the mess left by Sutter, made some astute picks and signings, and chose the coach who everybody loves today and will be a strong candidate for the Jack Adams. He also made some blunders. But he left the team in better shape than when he found it, and laid much of the foundation for the team we see now. The guy will probably never be GM in the league again, but let's give credit where credit is due.

[ah123]

I think this kinda belongs here...

@SUNGilbertson: #Flames had five picks at 2011 NHL Draft. Four of them — Baertschi, Granlund, Wotherspoon, Gaudreau — now on active rosters in this series.


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[polak]

Feaster deserves 100% more credit for this team than anyone else.

Burke is always taking advantage of already solidly built teams.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

I am however, hoping that he continues to get credit for the core of this team and I wish he could have been kept/rewarded in some capacity. The fact that he continues to constantly support the Flames and public-ally communicate that support makes it impossible to dislike him.

I think the organization has done a good job acknowledging what he successes.

I seem to recall both Treliving and Burke commenting to the media at different times.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Ummm, no a lockout doesn't change what a written agreement says.
Let's say there was a gray area though. Did Feaster check with the league? No. Is he suggesting that if he had and the league told him the position, he would have rolled the dice anyway and fought it in court? That's pretty dumb.

And I am responding to a post saying there was a chance it would have gone Feaster's way. In a fairly transparent attempt to minimize the huge gaffe (which I think was the keystone to his firing). Maybe take up the issue with the person who posed the question.

Finally, it was a scenario that DID take place. He made the offer. he just got his butt saved.

It happened? Where can I buy an O'Reilly jersey? To bad we lost those picks too. Damn....

... Gaudreau, Hudler, Wideman, Ramo, Granlund etc... I think we're ok despite this non-existent gaff.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by polak

Feaster deserves 100% more credit for this team than anyone else.

Burke is always taking advantage of already solidly built teams.

Burke is also the first to mention Feaster when giving credit for the building and success of this team. In fact, he's never once mentioned himself. Last quoted was:

Feaster, Treliving, Hartley and Giordano... only one of whom he had anything to do with.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Feaster cleaned up the mess left by Sutter, made some astute picks and signings, and chose the coach who everybody loves today and will be a strong candidate for the Jack Adams. He also made some blunders. But he left the team in better shape than when he found it, and laid much of the foundation for the team we see now. The guy will probably never be GM in the league again, but let's give credit where credit is due.

I'm all for giving Feaster credit where it is due, I just dont think trying to trade the pick that eventually became Monahan is a feather in his cap.

It was another near miss that could have been catastrophic for the organization.

There are good moves on his resume, but I don't see the need to misrepresent the bad to appreciate them. Same goes for Sutter or Button.

[Hanna Sniper]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I hope Jay is enjoying this series in the sun with a big smile across his jolly face.

Thanks Jay, you tha man.

And I'm happy he's working on that sun tan rather then being in the press box

For that I'm thankful, as Jay would have lead us to our worst season ever and instead we have playoff hockey

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I'm all for giving Feaster credit where it is due, I just dont think trying to trade the pick that eventually became Monahan is a feather in his cap.

It was another near miss that could have been catastrophic for the organization.

There are good moves on his resume, but I don't see the need to misrepresent the bad to appreciate them. Same goes for Sutter or Button.

Lol again, something that didn't happen, yet was a bad move.

Exploring options to get the MacKinnon pick was a process every GM should have, and likely did, go though.

When they asked for our three 1st rounders, he obviously laughed in the Avs faces. Otherwise, it would have happened.

He was also exploring options for Seguin and was asked for Monahan and Gaudreau. ALMOST DIDNT HAVE THEM!!!

Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Burke is also the first to mention Feaster when giving credit for the building and success of this team. In fact, he's never once mentioned himself. Last quoted was:

Feaster, Treliving, Hartley and Giordano... only one of whom he had anything to do with.

I was recently watching a talk on youtube by Brian Burke while he was with the Leafs, and he also gave credit to JFJ ("2 brilliant decisions" in Toronto. I believe he did the same in Anahaim and Vancouver, i.e. crediting previous management. Burke is just really classy guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj7uc88xFYE

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Hanna Sniper

And I'm happy he's working on that sun tan rather then being in the press box

For that I'm thankful, as Jay would have lead us to our worst season ever and instead we have playoff hockey

Hey, I'm as happy as anyone with the management, and do think it was the time for Feaster to be let go. He wasn't the guy to lead the team to success.

I'm just sick of seeing the good he did discounted for a couple almost transactions that didn't even happen.

He did what he was supposed to, which was clear house and restock, and did a fabulous job of it IMO.

[psyang]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Lol again, something that didn't happen, yet was a bad move.

Exploring options to get the MacKinnon pick was a process every GM should have, and likely did, go though.

When they asked for our three 1st rounders, he obviously laughed in the Avs faces. Otherwise, it would have happened.

He was also exploring options for Seguin and was asked for Monahan and Gaudreau. ALMOST DIDNT HAVE THEM!!!

Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades.

Actually, the rumor was that Feaster made the offer, and the Avalanche turned it down.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2013...-1-pick/13849/

On his Hotstove segment from Saturday’s Game 2 of the Cup Finals, Friedman said he’d heard — though he didn’t get it confirmed from either team — that the Flames offered their three first-round picks in this year’s draft (Nos. 6, 22 and 28) to the Avs for their first overall pick, and that the Avs said no.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by psyang

Actually, the rumor was that Feaster made the offer, and the Avalanche turned it down.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2013...-1-pick/13849/

Stand corrected, thanks.

Of course that would have sucked. It still didn't happen. And again, I agree it was time for Jay to go (this, ROR, Jankowski; all reasons) but that doesn't offset the great things he left us with which are contributing to current success.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by MattyC

It happened? Where can I buy an O'Reilly jersey? To bad we lost those picks too. Damn....

... Gaudreau, Hudler, Wideman, Ramo, Granlund etc... I think we're ok despite this non-existent gaff.

It happened that he made the offer, didn't check and would have paid a huge price, which would not have included you getting an O'Reilly jersey, since he would never have cleared waivers.

If you want to go back and "thank" management that hasn't been a part of the team for over a year, fine. I think this thread is a backhanded attack on the decision to let him go (and as a result, hire Treliving).

[jayswin]

I was a fan of Jay Feaster as GM and saw what he was trying to do, and obviously today a lot of it has worked out. A little food for thought on the questionable attempted trades/signings;

He, like most GM's was under certain directives during his time here. For most of that time the directive was "We still believe this is a playoff team and your directive is to get us in the playoffs".

Then when that directive changed, Jay fully switched into sell mode, and if still here today, may not have the same success we currently do (who knows) but would still likely be enjoying the accomplishment of a successful second year of a rebuild.

I guess what bugs me a little is that most of the criticism boils down to "Well what if this happened?" "What if Hudler didn't work out like he has" "He wanted to do this and that but thankfully he did that and this instead".

Whereas his successes are you know....things that actually happened.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by flameswin

I was a fan of Jay Feaster as GM and saw what he was trying to do, and obviously today a lot of it has worked out. A little food for thought on the questionable attempted trades/signings;

He, like most GM's was under certain directives during his time here. For most of that time the directive was "We still believe this is a playoff team and your directive is to get us in the playoffs".

Then when that directive changed, Jay fully switched into sell mode, and if still here today, may not have the same success we currently do (who knows) but would still likely be enjoying the accomplishment of a successful second year of a rebuild.

I guess what bugs me a little is that most of the criticism boils down to "Well what if this happened?" "What if Hudler didn't work out like he has" "He wanted to do this and that but thankfully he did that and this instead".

Whereas his successes are you know....things that actually happened.

The offer sheet happened - it was just matched. The offer to trade the Monahan pick happened - it was just rejected. It isn't speculation - it was luck in those cases that his plans were thwarted and he didn't get what he wanted.

I have literally never seen "what if Hudler didn't work out" as a criticism.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The offer to trade the Monahan pick happened - it was just rejected.

So who's the bigger dummy - Feaster for making the offer or Sherman for turning it down?

Seems like they both overrated the relative values of the 1st vs 6th pick. But it's conventional wisdom that #1 is worth a lot more than #6, especially when a player like McKinnon is available. Only in hindsight have we seen that Monahan is developing into as a good a player as McKinnon.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I have literally never seen "what if Hudler didn't work out" as a criticism.

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Hudler was a good signing but we're lucky he's comfortable at RW otherwise he was just another of the dozen or so LWs that Feaster accumulated for that season.

I've seen a few "He wasn't very good when he first got here, so obviously it was something about the team that changed him rather than a great signing by Feaster" type comments, and there's this from the last page.

So basically a "if Hudler didn't work then he wouldn't have worked out and then it wouldn't have been a good signing by feaster".