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Old 04-16-2015, 01:21 PM   #601
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Looking at our D ice time;
Wideman: 30:03
Russell: 29:07
Brodie: 26:05
Engelland: 20:15
Schlemko: 10:34
Potter: 3:56
Top pairing was playing too many minutes, and Brodie replaced Potter. Wotherspoon in for next game?
I know a lot of people already recognize this, but Engelland has really stepped up like a champ.
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:22 PM   #602
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17 minutes of Sbisa? Yes please!
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:33 PM   #603
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Just watched the NBC highlights on GameCentre.

Chris Cuthbert >>>>>> Jimmy Cheerleader

I'll be tuning into NBC for every game in this series going forward.
My memory of Cuthbert in 2004 Game 7 is him going ape#### when the Canucks tied the game, and sounding forced to be excited when the Flames won. Maybe he was shocked by the suddeness.
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:35 PM   #604
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My memory of Cuthbert in 2004 Game 7 is him going ape#### when the Canucks tied the game, and sounding forced to be excited when the Flames won. Maybe he was shocked by the suddeness.


I think he sounds pumped.
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:37 PM   #605
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When you watch how many of our young players perform, it makes we wonder what in the world Treliving is going to do this off season with all the capable bodies we have up front. Even with some of the injuries, we still have healthy guys sitting out who are good enough to play IMO.

We have pretty much zero UFA forwards on our current NHL roster, and a glut of young players who are proving every day that they are good enough right now, and probably only going to get better.....and IMO there are even more quality prospects coming up behind these guys who are forcing their way onto the roster as we speak.

Plus, you can't trade away too many of the higher priced vets, because you do have the cap floor to think about.

Anyways, hopefully we get a nice long playoff run to enjoy here, but when it's finally done, I'm really interested to see what happens with the log jam that's building, and likely to come to a head this off season in one way or another.
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:40 PM   #606
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Yeah, I'm starting to get the feeling that Wotherspoon has a ways to go before he gains Hartley's trust. Not sure what the deal is, but with all the call ups to the big club, and all the practices he's had with the team he only touched game ice once in a meaningless end of season game.....and even with Potter playing very few minutes he still can't get into the line up.
Which will certainly become an issue as this series moves on. Defensive depth and having players able to step in when injuries occur will be key. If somebody goes down...who would be next in line? Wotherspoon? Kulak? I'm assuming that Diaz is still not close.
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:42 PM   #607
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I think he sounds pumped.
Exactly. Cuthbert was excited for both goals, as he should be.
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:44 PM   #608
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Plus, you can't trade away too many of the higher priced vets, because you do have the cap floor to think about.
No matter what, winning and good management always leave you in a good position.

Concerning the cap floor. It's not that hard to manage the league minimum and there are enough teams in the league in cap jail that would happily take, for example, Mason Raymond without his 3.15 mil salary in its entirety.
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:44 PM   #609
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Plus, you can't trade away too many of the higher priced vets, because you do have the cap floor to think about.
Of the young guys, we can send Granlund down and call him back up after the deadline, like they did this year. Granlund still has plenty of room to improve his personal game. I expect the same for Wotherspoon, though ideally he starts next season with the big club and other guys get his minutes in Stockton.

Of the vets, Smid('s contract) and Engelland are probably here to stay. I can also see us bringing Schlemko back.

Bollig and Raymond might be on the out, which is about 6m in cap space give or take that we have to recoup if we trade them. There's a chance we retain salary on them, too, which could be a good thing.

Add in about 1.8 for the difference between Ortio's pay and Ramo's pay, so 7.8 mil.

Backlund, Bouma, Jooris, Byron, Ferland should all be on increased pay next season.

If Jones is traded, it probably it won't be until the deadline, so most of his 4M cap hit will be under the Flames. He might not be traded at all, though.

...I'm sure we'll hit the cap floor even if we move Bollig and Raymond.

Staying under the cap in 2016-17 is going to be way, way, way harder.
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I know a lot of people already recognize this, but Engelland has really stepped up like a champ.
He really is our #5 now. I remember for the longest time we called him our 6/7 defenseman. He's proven that he can play top 4 minutes if need be.
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Let's be objective here: the Flames were outshot 18-3 with Daniel Sedin on the ice. So that's not a huge overstatement. As PMM says it was a huge coaching failure by Desjardins not to use them more in the third. He was soundly outcoached by Hartley - the Flames couldn't get an outlet pass to work in the first with Canucks D stepping up in the neutral zone to disrupe the breakout. By the 2nd, Hartley had changed the breakout strategy and suddenly everything was flowing again.

Don't underestimate the importance of that coaching matchup.
According to nhl.com, the Nucks had 30 shots, broken down as follows:...

DS and Burrows had 9 shots (none for HS)

The other forwards had 14 shots

The D had 7 shots

Now, it's entirely possible that the 7 shots from the D ALL came during the 16 minutes that the twins were on the ice, but I am going to go ahead and guess that wasn't the case.

That line got a lot of shots in the 1st, but they sure didn't outshoot their opposition 18-3.
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Old 04-16-2015, 02:16 PM   #613
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I think he sounds pumped.
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Almost forgot - at some point they said Lack went to Alex Auld for advice.

Alex Auld?????
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Old 04-16-2015, 02:48 PM   #616
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According to nhl.com, the Nucks had 30 shots, broken down as follows:...

DS and Burrows had 9 shots (none for HS)

The other forwards had 14 shots

The D had 7 shots

Now, it's entirely possible that the 7 shots from the D ALL came during the 16 minutes that the twins were on the ice, but I am going to go ahead and guess that wasn't the case.

That line got a lot of shots in the 1st, but they sure didn't outshoot their opposition 18-3.
You made the mistake of thinking that actuall shots on net count.

That said even war-on-ice.com has D. Sedin at +13 corsi 18-5. But it also has Potter at +5 corsi so take that for what it's worth...

I can't believe I looked up corsi I feel so dirty.

As for the actual game, the Sedin's looked far less scary with the puck than they have in the past. Gone are the two minutes of blind pass cycles that end in the back of the net. In it's place was Burrow's laid out and the puck leaving the zone.
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Old 04-16-2015, 02:51 PM   #617
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Almost forgot - at some point they said Lack went to Alex Auld for advice.

Alex Auld?????
He does have experience losing which is what Lack is going to be doing a lot of.
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I don't believe this has been mentioned anywhere yet: This was only the third road playoff win for the Flames since the lockout (Game 3 in Anaheim in 2006, and Game 1 in San Jose in 2008 were the others). They lost every game in Chicago in 2009 and in Detroit in 2007.

Last night's win snapped a 6-game road playoff losing streak and was the first road playoff win in over 7 years (April 9, 2008).
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Almost forgot - at some point they said Lack went to Alex Auld for advice.

Alex Auld?????

it was Skinny Jeans, George Extropalopakettle, that said during the All Star break he spent all his time in the rink with Auld.
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According to nhl.com, the Nucks had 30 shots, broken down as follows:...

DS and Burrows had 9 shots (none for HS)

The other forwards had 14 shots

The D had 7 shots

Now, it's entirely possible that the 7 shots from the D ALL came during the 16 minutes that the twins were on the ice, but I am going to go ahead and guess that wasn't the case.

That line got a lot of shots in the 1st, but they sure didn't outshoot their opposition 18-3.
Yeah.. he's talking about being out-Corsi'd... so shot attempts.
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