04-15-2015, 01:46 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Ortio assigned to Adirondack.
Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Ortio officially reassigned to AHL. Had to go down after Gillies signing. Was up on emergency recall. #Flames
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04-15-2015, 01:49 PM
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#2
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Winchestertonfieldville Jail
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That must suck
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04-15-2015, 01:51 PM
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#3
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Franchise Player
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doesn't suck - they would have told him: go play a couple games and we'll see you Monday
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04-15-2015, 01:51 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skudr248
That must suck
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Not really - Under the CBA Gillies can't be assigned to the AHL and Ortio can, so he is the one who has to go.
He'll be back up Sunday with the other Black Aces, once the baby flames season is over. With Ramo healthy, Ortio knows he's #3 on the depth chart for this run, so no big deal to go down for a few days.
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04-15-2015, 01:52 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Yeah he and a bunch of Adirondack players can/will be recalled after Sunday's game.
At that point there is no limit for Calgary to call them up.
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04-15-2015, 01:54 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Yeah he and a bunch of Adirondack players can/will be recalled after Sunday's game.
At that point there is no limit for Calgary to call them up.
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Stupid question time: Since this is the post season and players don't get paid extra for it (ie" they are now working for 'free') - Is there any reason not to call up your entire AHL squad as black aces, other than hotel/travel/etc considerations?
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04-15-2015, 02:01 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigNumbers
Stupid question time: Since this is the post season and players don't get paid extra for it (ie" they are now working for 'free') - Is there any reason not to call up your entire AHL squad as black aces, other than hotel/travel/etc considerations?
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Yes theoretically you could/should call up the entire AHL squad, but the logistics get in the way.
Another consideration is coaches time. Does Hartley and staff really have the time to run essentially two teams worth of practice and still properly prepare 20 guys for a game?
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04-15-2015, 02:10 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Yes theoretically you could/should call up the entire AHL squad, but the logistics get in the way.
Another consideration is coaches time. Does Hartley and staff really have the time to run essentially two teams worth of practice and still properly prepare 20 guys for a game?
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I had thought mainly 'call them up but don't' dress or practice', just be around the team / atmosphere and, if needed, could dress..Seems like win/win and doesn't use up coaches time.
But you're right, likely a point where calling up your AHL 4th liner is of limited value...
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04-15-2015, 02:15 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Calgary
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Call up the coaching staff as well to assist.  .
I know to many bodies is not helpful either...
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04-15-2015, 02:23 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigNumbers
I had thought mainly 'call them up but don't' dress or practice', just be around the team / atmosphere and, if needed, could dress..Seems like win/win and doesn't use up coaches time.
But you're right, likely a point where calling up your AHL 4th liner is of limited value...
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Plus its the playoffs, you've got to keep the guys that got you there tight and together.
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04-15-2015, 02:25 PM
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First Line Centre
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Hopefully he can get a couple of games in Adirondack so he's ready to go next week if he's needed.
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04-15-2015, 02:25 PM
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#12
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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The AHL squad has the following players on NHL Contracts that could be called up:
Ortio (no-brainer black ace)
Bill Arnold (Probably a black ace)
Emile Poirier (Probably a black ace)
and then probably four or five of these six
Cundari
Ramage
Wolf
Agostino
Reinhart
Elson
and then maybe none or both of these:
Kulak (Possibly a black ace, but a long shot)
McGrattan (Probably gets flown up anyways)
and then I doubt any of these get the callup:
Hanowski
Thiessen (probably not a black ace as the 5th string goaltender)
Sieloff (probably not a black ace with his inexperience)
Culkin (injured)
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04-15-2015, 02:31 PM
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#13
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigNumbers
Stupid question time: Since this is the post season and players don't get paid extra for it (ie" they are now working for 'free') - Is there any reason not to call up your entire AHL squad as black aces, other than hotel/travel/etc considerations?
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I would imagine the same reason teams trim down their roster as training camp progresses.... you aren't really fighting for your "23-man team" (or 30-man team) when there is a winnebago full of touriests along for the ride.
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04-15-2015, 03:26 PM
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#14
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Ortio officially reassigned to AHL. Had to go down after Gillies signing. Was up on emergency recall. #Flames
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He didn't have to go down because of the Gillies signing. He had to go down because Ramo is healthy and he was on an emergency recall.
If Ramo was still hurt, they likely would have delayed announcing the Gillies signing until Sunday so Ortio could have stayed up.
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