04-11-2015, 05:31 PM
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#101
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Roger Moore is the best Bond ever
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04-11-2015, 09:38 PM
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#102
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Regulator75
Will Smith has / never will be the coolest guy anywhere.
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1990-1996: Fresh prince of Bel Air
Summer 1996: Independence Day
Summer 1997: Men in Black
Fall 1997: Big Willy Style
We'd remember Smith's coolness better if he hadn't tied it up and thrown it into a river.
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04-11-2015, 11:08 PM
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#103
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: compton
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Originally Posted by Dion
John Carpenter's "Halloween" was the greatest horror movie ever created.
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A LOT of people share this sentiment.
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04-12-2015, 02:44 PM
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#104
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Unpopular movie opinions?
- Daniel Day-Lewis is incredibly overrated. Technically very good, yes, but he is the prototype of an Oscar-fishing actor, constantly putting his own performance above the good of the movie and turning potentially interesting scenes into annoying one-man shows.
The appreciation of this style in general is a big reason why I consider an oscar award for a film to be a negative factor when judging whether a film is worth seeing or not.
- "Good acting" is the most sexist, agist and racist category of all art appreciation. White men, especially older white men, are constantly overvalued, and white women under 40 are the most underappreciated actors. (Ethnic minorities get the minority bonus points.)
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04-12-2015, 02:58 PM
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#105
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Kswiss
Agree with Will Farrell. I really don't get the hype with this guy. I find almost all his films unbearable to watch. When you see him live he seems to be pushing so hard to get a laugh its almost embarrassing.
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hahaha!! I thought I was the only one who can't stand Will Farrell. He seems to be trying too much to be funny but fail.
I love action movies such as 'The Bourne' trilogy and Fast and the Furious. Also love comedies.
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04-12-2015, 07:59 PM
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#106
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#1 Goaltender
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I don't find Angelina Jolie attractive at all.
The Amazing Spiderman wins by Miles and Miles and Miles. Andy Garfield was great, and Toby has ruined all movies he has ever been in.
On that Topic I thought the Great Gatsby was the worst cast movie I have seen in about 10 years.
I really liked the Plot of the New Star Wars Movies, we all know the characters needed some work.
The Dark Knight Moviers are as over rated as Sean Penn. Why does everyone still talk about them, there have been like 10 better super hero movies made since then.
I watch Frozen every week with my Daughter and I enjoy the movie
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04-12-2015, 08:06 PM
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#107
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: not lurking
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I am entirely unable to understand the appeal to Winter Soldier. I'd rank it near the absolute bottom of the recent Marvel Universe barrel, above only the Thor movies.
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04-12-2015, 08:29 PM
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#108
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Originally Posted by octothorp
I am entirely unable to understand the appeal to Winter Soldier. I'd rank it near the absolute bottom of the recent Marvel Universe barrel, above only the Thor movies.
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The Thor movies could be redeemed by Ragnarok, but honestly I don't know if Disney has the courage to tell that story. It is very dark, with heavy spiritual elements. If they make Ragnarok a kids movie, the beginning of every subsequent film will have a shark jumping over the Marvel insignia at the beginning.
Try ignoring the fact that Winter Soldier is a superhero movie, and rewatch it as a spy thriller. The thing that I liked about that movie was the change in tone from the Iron Man template.
You got me thinking about Marvel though, and I'd like to add something.
1) Marvel endings are really really bad, for the most part. They spend two hours creating an interesting story, and then end it in big explosions. There is never any real tension, and the endings are usually a cop-out. They are capable of so much more. See Blade II.
2) Marvel doesn't spend enough time on its villains. Loki was an accident. The real villain was supposed to be Laufy. It's hard to think of another strong villain. This is one reason why Fox's X-men does so well. Magneto. Evil Kevin Bacon.
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04-13-2015, 08:39 AM
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#109
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Scoring Winger
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The Avengers is meh. Near the bottom of MCU films for me
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04-13-2015, 10:06 AM
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#110
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Monahan23
The Avengers is meh. Near the bottom of MCU films for me
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Is it a spoiler to say that the ending was written by M. Night Shalaman (probably), and was a huge letdown?
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04-13-2015, 10:53 AM
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#111
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Itse
- "Good acting" is the most sexist, agist and racist category of all art appreciation. White men, especially older white men, are constantly overvalued, and white women under 40 are the most underappreciated actors. (Ethnic minorities get the minority bonus points.)
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This will probably be unpopular but I'd barely consider acting an "art". It's the only "art" where you don't actually create anything. It's definitely a skill but an art? Creating original music is an art. Creating original sculptures is an art. Creating an original painting is an art. Creating original stories is an art.
Being an actor is like being a cover band. Both can be very good at delivering other peoples work but neither are "creating" anything. You can try telling me that "they create emotion" or some crap but they don't. They create the emotion they are told to. Sure some of them might also have artistic qualities and contribute to the real creative processes (directing and writing) but just straight up acting? I wouldn't call it art. Hell, the CGI and animation guys, the sound guys, the score guys, the set design guys, they are all far more "artistic" than the actors.
Skill. Not art.
Last edited by polak; 04-13-2015 at 10:56 AM.
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04-13-2015, 11:00 AM
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#112
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by polak
This will probably be unpopular but I'd barely consider acting an "art". It's the only "art" where you don't actually create anything. It's definitely a skill but an art? Creating original music is an art. Creating original sculptures is an art. Creating an original painting is an art. Creating original stories is an art.
Being an actor is like being a cover band. Both can be very good at delivering other peoples work but neither are "creating" anything. You can try telling me that "they create emotion" or some crap but they don't. They create the emotion they are told to. Sure some of them might also have artistic qualities and contribute to the real creative processes (directing and writing) but just straight up acting? I wouldn't call it art. Hell, the CGI and animation guys, the sound guys, the score guys, the set design guys, they are all far more "artistic" than the actors.
Skill. Not art.
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The ability to make you believe that someone is something they aren't is IMO an art.
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04-13-2015, 11:09 AM
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#113
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
The ability to make you believe that someone is something they aren't is IMO an art.
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So would you consider a cover band that absolutely nails the songs of the people they're covering to be artists?
I can see where you're coming from, but to me that's still more of a skill.
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04-13-2015, 11:12 AM
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#114
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by polak
So would you consider a cover band that absolutely nails the songs of the people they're covering to be artists?
I can see where you're coming from, but to me that's still more of a skill.
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Yeah, why aren't they artists.
What about a forger of art or violinist in an orchestra?
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04-13-2015, 11:30 AM
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#115
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Yeah, why aren't they artists.
What about a forger of art or violinist in an orchestra?
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Cause I guess in my opinion copying something isn't art. It's creating original work that is artistic.
Slash is artist. The billion people on youtube trying to copy his work are just people trying to perfect a skill (until they start trying to create their own work, at which point they would be artists).
That's just how I view it.
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04-13-2015, 11:35 AM
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#116
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by polak
Cause I guess in my opinion copying something isn't art. It's creating original work that is artistic.
Slash is artist. The billion people on youtube trying to copy his work are just people trying to perfect a skill (until they start trying to create their own work, at which point they would be artists).
That's just how I view it.
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So what about the violinist?
What about "artists" that sample other's music? They didn't create that music, so by your definition they are not artists.
What about Matt Damon and Ben Afflick. They wrote Good Will Hunting and acted in it.
Does that give them as pass? They created the scripted.
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04-13-2015, 11:39 AM
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#117
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
So what about the violinist?
What about "artists" that sample other's music? They didn't create that music, so by your definition they are not artists.
What about Matt Damon and Ben Afflick. They wrote Good Will Hunting and acted in it.
Does that give them as pass? They created the scripted.
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The violinist falls into that category unless they write their own music. No different than a hired singer.
Matt Damon and Ben Affleck get a pass because they wrote the movie. So they have artistic talent as well as acting talent.
Don't get me wrong, Acting and simply playing instruments well can be tremendous skills. I just think "art" should be reserved for creative acts.
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04-13-2015, 11:40 AM
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#118
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by polak
The violinist falls into that category unless they write their own music. No different than a hired singer.
Matt Damon and Ben Affleck get a pass because they wrote the movie. So they have artistic talent as well as acting talent.
Don't get me wrong, Acting and simply playing instruments well can be tremendous skills. I just think "art" should be reserved for creative acts.
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So all those that use other's music are not artists?
Is that correct?
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04-13-2015, 11:45 AM
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#119
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
So all those that use other's music are not artists?
Is that correct?
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lol nice try.
There's art in taking something and creating something new from it.
yes that includes sampling or remixing if it's done well.
I'll put it this way. If a violinist is just playing Ode to Joy, then I don't consider them an artist. However, if they're playing Ode to Joy and then starting tearing up an original solo over the backing of Ode to Joy than I would thing that would count as art.
Improv acting would be art.
Last edited by polak; 04-13-2015 at 11:47 AM.
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04-13-2015, 11:51 AM
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#120
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by polak
lol nice try.
There's art in taking something and creating something new from it.
yes that includes sampling or remixing if it's done well.
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See here is the problem with your opinion, IMO.
Different actors will bring different approached to the same part. They will take the original source material (a part in a script) and presenting it in a new way. Not all actors play the same part the same way.
"artists" that sample music are doing exactly what actors are doing. They are taking original source material (a part in a song) and presenting it in a new way.
Acting is all about "taking something and creating something new".
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