Wild Card Race (Western Conference)

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

The stupid thing is, LA has 14 of those loser points and its allowed them to stay in the race. Its not right that the Flames sit below them in the standings with 3 more wins.

Yes it is. If we're gonna give 2 points for scoring more breakaways, your gonna get a point for getting there too

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Sorry 19



http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2014/06...4-15-schedule/

Boy does San Jose get hooped when teams do the Cali road trip.

[browna]

After tonight's atrocious OOT scoreboard, Flames, according to sportsclubstats, now below 60% chance to be in the playoffs, for first time since losing to FLA 6-5 on Jan 10th.

Tomorrow game has a 27% swing...down another 13% to about 45% chance with a regulation loss, up 14% to 72% with a regulation win.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by browna

After tonight's atrocious OOT scoreboard, Flames, according to sportsclubstats, now below 60% chance to be in the playoffs, for first time since losing to FLA 6-5 on Jan 10th.

Tomorrow game has a 27% swing...down another 13% to about 45% chance with a regulation loss, up 14% to 72% with a regulation win.

You hate to overuse the term "must win game" but we are getting down to the nitty gritty here and they have to win their games. A win agains the Wild keeps the playoffs viable while a loss puts them on death row.

[The Fonz]

We're 3 regulation losses away from missing the playoffs, assuming it takes 98 points to get in.

Need to finish the season going 5-2-1 to make it.

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

We're 3 regulation losses away from missing the playoffs, assuming it takes 98 points to get in.

Need to finish the season going 5-2-1 to make it.

Every single year the last ten years (or perhaps longer, haven't checked past that) 96 has been enough in either conference to get in, and most years it's around 92-93. We could get 97 and not get in if the other teams we're competing with play roughly .500 (MIN 3-4-1, VAN 4-4, WPG 4-3, LA 5-3).

Even going 5-2-1 for 98 points, we could well STILL need the tiebreaker, in which case we need it to be LA or WPG.

WTF

[Loyal and True]

I think the race is awesome. You might as well earn it.

5-2-1 is probably what you need to seal it with 98 points. Road trip 3-2-0 or 3-1-1, then win two out of final three (maybe one is OTL).

Final two games are playoff games. Two wins and you make it to the tournament. It's gonna be fun.

[xJWBx]

Flames sure aren't getting any help on the OOT scoreboard, but I have a feeling it will turn around soon - particularly for the Jets. Their next 5 games are CHI, NYR, VAN, MIN, and STL. It's very much possible that they are about to go on a 5 game losing streak. Then having only 2 games remaining after that (COL and CGY), their max attainable points would be 94. If that's the case, the Flames would be able to sneak in with a 3-4-1 record. That looks A LOT less daunting than the projected 97-98 points that's being thrown around.

Of course there's still a lot of hockey to be played, and many other teams and variables are involved, but this is one scenario I would love to see be played out. In any case, let's just get in!

[Tsawwassen]

Originally Posted by xJWBx

Flames sure aren't getting any help on the OOT scoreboard, but I have a feeling it will turn around soon - particularly for the Jets. Their next 5 games are CHI, NYR, VAN, MIN, and STL. It's very much possible that they are about to go on a 5 game losing streak. Then having only 2 games remaining after that (COL and CGY), their max attainable points would be 94. If that's the case, the Flames would be able to sneak in with a 3-4-1 record. That looks A LOT less daunting than the projected 97-98 points that's being thrown around.

The Jets may lose the 5 in a row, but, some of those losses could be in OT or the SO in which the Jets will get points.

[Tsawwassen]

After Thursday's games:


1. Minnesota (42-25-7) 38 ROW, 91 pts
Vancouver (43-27-4) 39 ROW, 90 pts--second in the Pacific Division
2. Winnipeg (39-24-12) 32 ROW, 90 pts
Los Angeles (37-23-14) 35 ROW, 88 pts--third in the Pacific Division
3. Calgary(40-27-7) 36 ROW,87 pts--and fourth in the Pacific Division
4. Dallas (36-28-10) 32 ROW, 82 pts
5. San Jose (36-30-8) 33 ROW, 80 pts--and fifth in the Pacific Division
6. Colorado (34-27-12) 25 ROW, 80 pts

Avalanche, Sharks, Kings, and Jets won in regulation
Canucks lost in regulation

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Eastern conference playoff race


Pittsburgh (40-23-11) 37 ROW, 91 pts
Detroit (39-22-12) 36 ROW, 90 pts--third in the Atlantic Division
1. Washington (40-24-10) 36 ROW, 90 pts
2. Ottawa (37-25-11) 32 ROW, 85 pts--and fourth in the Atlantic Division
3. Boston (36-25-13) 33 ROW, 85 pts--and fifth in the Atlantic Division
4. Florida (34-26-14) 26 ROW, 82 pts

Panthers and Capitals won in regulation
Senators, Red Wings, and Penguins lost in regulation
Bruins lost in overtime

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

2-1-2 is a 98 pt pace. That isn't dropping off. Maybe it isn't good enough, but it isn't dropping off.

Extrapolating points over 82 games is utterly meaningless. All that matters is what we do relative to the other teams in the chase.

And yes, we are dropping off.

[Gaudfather]

Flames really need a statement game tonight against the Wild - this is a critical 2 pts if they can pull out the win. They have to stay with the pack at this point.

[direwolf]

Flames are gonna need a miracle at this point. I still have hope that they can make it happen, but the other teams in the race seem to be playing at a higher level right now, and I'm not sure the Flames have the horses to get to that same level. I agree though, I think 5-2-1 might get them in. Just need a little help from the hockey gods.

[Sylvanfan]

The first round in the West should be interesting this year. Several teams further back in the pack could be going into the playoffs really hot over their last 25 games. Minnesota has used the Blues to wipe the floor when they've played recently, and Anaheim has been inconsistent for quite some time here. The two Wild Card teams and 3rd place teams in the Division very well could end up as the 2nd round teams in the West this year.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Flames are gonna need a miracle at this point. I still have hope that they can make it happen, but the other teams in the race seem to be playing at a higher level right now, and I'm not sure the Flames have the horses to get to that same level. I agree though, I think 5-2-1 might get them in. Just need a little help from the hockey gods.

It all basically comes down to the games against LA, Minny, and Winnipeg. Worst case, we need to keep up with them and then beat whichever of them falters the most over the last games.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Flames are gonna need a miracle at this point. I still have hope that they can make it happen, but the other teams in the race seem to be playing at a higher level right now, and I'm not sure the Flames have the horses to get to that same level. I agree though, I think 5-2-1 might get them in. Just need a little help from the hockey gods.

1 point out at this point does not require a miracle.

[White Out 403]

Perrault likely back for Jets vs hawks on Sunday.

Little not until April 4 vs Canucks

[handgroen]

what P.O.S. the OOT has been lately, come in to work today, and everybodies like "what's wrong?" to hell with getting any favors from the rest of the league the flames are going to have to do it themselves right down to the last game against stupid winnipeg. /end rage rant

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

1 point out at this point does not require a miracle.

The Jets were basically out looking at a miracle after losing to Vancouver and ooops 48 hours they are back in..... or at least in the driver's seat.

Interesting that the the game with Minnesota is the last head to head 4 pt game the Flames have until the last 2 games.

A win over Minnesota puts the Flames back of the wild by 2 pts with 7 games to go.. 1 game behind in the ROW..... that is not miracle country.

The Flames are a career 8-8 against Dubnyk with weaker Flame teams so a win against him doesn't qualify as a miracle.

Last time the Wild came back from a 2 game road winning trip they lost the home game in regulation.

The Wild were only able to beat the Leafs 2-1 so that shows they are due for a drubbing and they are at the point where their winning streak is about to become a losing streak.

Go Flames

PS. The wild have to be thinking what does it take. 24-6-1 since Dubnyk took over and they have a 4 pt "cushion" on their playoff spot.

their last 8 games: Calgary, LA, NYR, DET, Winnipeg, Chicago, Nashville and ST.L


The easiest game would be Detroit. Of the other teams Nashville at 5-4-1 is the next weakest over the last 10 games.


They lose to Calgary and they might not make the playoffs.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

The Flames are a career 8-8 against Dubnyk with weaker Flame teams so a win against him doesn't qualify as a miracle.

Oilers Dubnyk and post-Oilers Dubnyk should be considered two different goalies. There isn't a hotter player in the league right now, I'd be surprised if the Flames can get more than 2 pucks past him