Top Gear...Anyone?!?!

[Thor]

lol some of these comments by Jeremy are hilarious!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-10112626.html

[Madman]

The powers that be wanted to finish off the season, but May and Hammond refused.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/t...-james-5360997

[Flash Walken]

I'm having a difficult time defending a wealthy TV presenter in his 50s for striking a colleague over the lack of a hot meal.

Not exactly the moral high ground for May and Hammond.

[polak]

I don't think anyone is under the illusion that Jeremy is a great person.

But he is a real, normal person. A person who doesn't care about conforming to how he SHOULD be acting. He's like we all are under the surface when we're not trying to be PC. I think that's the draw.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I'm having a difficult time defending a wealthy TV presenter in his 50s for striking a colleague over the lack of a hot meal.

Not exactly the moral high ground for May and Hammond.

What, you've never had a bad day?

Read some of the behind the scenes stuff that these guys do and say, I've always said that being a Top Gear Presenter would be the best job in the world but they do some extreme and difficult stuff.

Yeah, he flipped after a long, hard and exhausting day and he shouldnt have lost his temper but he did and it happens.

I like that May and Hammond refused, they're a team and they'd probably hope that Jeremy would stand by them if it ever came to that.

[FlameOn]

Wow 91% of surveyed viewers do not think top gear would survive without Clarkson.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Locke

What, you've never had a bad day?

Read some of the behind the scenes stuff that these guys do and say, I've always said that being a Top Gear Presenter would be the best job in the world but they do some extreme and difficult stuff.

Yeah, he flipped after a long, hard and exhausting day and he shouldnt have lost his temper but he did and it happens.

I like that May and Hammond refused, they're a team and they'd probably hope that Jeremy would stand by them if it ever came to that.

Again, if it was May or Hammond, guys who had not received warning previously, it's probably different.

Clarkson, however, comes off as a jerk, which is what makes him an entertaining and endearing character.

And while I have had a bad day, and I have had long days, and I have had #### days, I've never punched a coworker in the mouth because my meal wasn't hot.

If this was someone other than Clarkson, it's one thing, but it's a guy who's been previously reprimanded, and probably more so unofficially.

I dunno, I guess I don't see the uproar, and I'm a big Top Gear fan.

[speede5]

Originally Posted by polak

I don't think anyone is under the illusion that Jeremy is a great person.

But he is a real, normal person. A person who doesn't care about conforming to how he SHOULD be acting. He's like we all are under the surface when we're not trying to be PC. I think that's the draw.

I hope that's not true, I find him to be a pompous, arrogant a$$. I don't think everyone is like that under the surface.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Again, if it was May or Hammond, guys who had not received warning previously, it's probably different.

Clarkson, however, comes off as a jerk, which is what makes him an entertaining and endearing character.

And while I have had a bad day, and I have had long days, and I have had #### days, I've never punched a coworker in the mouth because my meal wasn't hot.

If this was someone other than Clarkson, it's one thing, but it's a guy who's been previously reprimanded, and probably more so unofficially.

I dunno, I guess I don't see the uproar, and I'm a big Top Gear fan.

I get that, and I understand, I just see it from the perspective that he lost his cool and flipped. He knows that, the producer knows that, we all know that. Hes apologized for that and okay, he split the guy's lip, he probably owes the producer more than an apology.

But is it worth firing him over? Will that make the producer happier? Especially if the show hes working on ends because of it? Will it make the BBC happier? Is it worth the millions of pounds?

Is Clarkson more trouble than hes worth? Thats a tough question because apparently hes worth quite a bit.

[Flash Walken]

Locke, I've never had a job where I wouldn't be fired immediately for striking a colleague.

Look at it from a Human Resources perspective or frankly, ANY kind of management perspective. He got his last warning. He was told he would be fired without question if he did something that crossed the line again. Then he punched some guy he works with in the face, reportedly over a meal that wasn't served hot.

The BBC is so much bigger than top gear and Clarkson.

He's absolutely more trouble than he's worth and it looks like the BBC has reached that conclusion as well. Frankly, buying him out last year is with hindsight a move from the BBC to distance themselves from him.

I get where you're coming from, Locke, but it's just not acceptable behaviour to punch a work colleague, even if the puncher is exceedingly likeable.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Locke, I've never had a job where I wouldn't be fired immediately for striking a colleague.

Look at it from a Human Resources perspective or frankly, ANY kind of management perspective. He got his last warning. He was told he would be fired without question if he did something that crossed the line again. Then he punched some guy he works with in the face, reportedly over a meal that wasn't served hot.

The BBC is so much bigger than top gear and Clarkson.

He's absolutely more trouble than he's worth and it looks like the BBC has reached that conclusion as well. Frankly, buying him out last year is with hindsight a move from the BBC to distance themselves from him.

I get where you're coming from, Locke, but it's just not acceptable behaviour to punch a work colleague, even if the puncher is exceedingly likeable.

I agree, but at the same time I also understand that compromises can and likely will be made.

Sure, any job I've had I'd be fired for striking a colleague as well, but I'm not in show business. From what I understand the crew tend to take a ton of abuse from 'the talent' as a general premise, so industry standard has to be taken into account as well, for better or for worse.

And I think we have to acknowledge that Jeremy Clarkson is simply the best in the world at what he does and he receives leeway because of it, which also happens in any industry in the world.

You're the greatest football/soccer/hockey/baseball/etc player in the world, transgressions will be overlooked.

[d_phaneuf]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cele...y-the-BBC.html

Looks like he's getting fired

[Jimmy Stang]

It looks that way. The Mirror (I know...), The Guardian, The Telegraph are all reporting this. Where there's smoke there is usually fire.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Well that sucks. Even if it may be the responsible thing for BBC to do after his many warnings, it is really too bad. Hopefully Clarkson will go on to produce his own show or something

[Jimmy Stang]

A BBC investigation led by BBC Scotland boss Ken MacQuarrie found that Clarkson engaged Oisin Tymon in a 30-second physical assault after a 20-minute verbal tirade. Tymon took himself to the accident and emergency department for treatment after the assault, MacQuarrie’s report found.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...r-contract-bbc

If true, that's pretty brutal and probably sealed his fate. A push or even a punch is one thing, but to go at someone for 30-seconds is a different can of worms all together.

[d_phaneuf]

“It is with great regret that I have told Jeremy Clarkson today that the BBC will not be renewing his contract. It is not a decision I have taken lightly. I have done so only after a very careful consideration of the facts and after personally meeting both Jeremy and Oisin Tymon.

“I am grateful to Ken MacQuarrie for the thorough way he has conducted an investigation of the incident on 4th March. Given the obvious and very genuine public interest in this I am publishing the findings of his report. I take no pleasure in doing so. I am only making them public so people can better understand the background. I know how popular the programme is and I also know that this decision will divide opinion. The main facts are not disputed by those involved.

“I want to make three points.

“First – The BBC is a broad church. Our strength in many ways lies in that diversity. We need distinctive and different voices but they cannot come at any price. Common to all at the BBC have to be standards of decency and respect. I cannot condone what has happened on this occasion. A member of staff – who is a completely innocent party – took himself to Accident and Emergency after a physical altercation accompanied by sustained and prolonged verbal abuse of an extreme nature. For me a line has been crossed. There cannot be one rule for one and one rule for another dictated by either rank, or public relations and commercial considerations.

“Second – This has obviously been difficult for everyone involved but in particular for Oisin. I want to make clear that no blame attaches to him for this incident. He has behaved with huge integrity throughout. As a senior producer at the BBC he will continue to have an important role within the organisation in the future.

“Third – Obviously none of us wanted to find ourselves in this position. This decision should in no way detract from the extraordinary contribution that Jeremy Clarkson has made to the BBC. I have always personally been a great fan of his work and Top Gear. Jeremy is a huge talent. He may be leaving the BBC but I am sure he will continue to entertain, challenge and amuse audiences for many years to come.

“The BBC must now look to renew Top Gear for 2016. This will be a big challenge and there is no point in pretending otherwise. I have asked Kim Shillinglaw to look at how best we might take this forward over the coming months. I have also asked her to look at how we put out the last programmes in the current series.”

Bbc statement

going to be interesting if Hammond and May stick around, the Telegraph article mentioned Clarkson and a netflix show, I wonder if they would go to that with him

[Locke]

Top Gear just basically died and a ton of other networks are just rubbing their hands together in anticipation.

The BBC just cut off their nose to spite their face.

[SportsJunky]

If the accounts of what happened are true, he had to be fired. I liked him and I'm saddened that the show might try to go forward without him but BBC did the right thing. I wonder if fans of the show are going to turn against that producer now.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

If the accounts of what happened are true, he had to be fired. I liked him and I'm saddened that the show might try to go forward without him but BBC did the right thing. I wonder if fans of the show are going to turn against that producer now.

Its going to be hard, they should have learned their lesson from Top Gear US, the presenters are the most important part.

And if Jeremy takes up a similar show on another network then it may be a moot point anyways because I'd imagine that Top Gear UK wouldnt survive long.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

The real tragedy is now we'll never know who was the fastest lap out of the LaFerrari, McLaren, and 918 Spyder