Magic Numbers Thread

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by hwy19man

It is a five horse race for the last four playoff spots, the Jets and Wild are in this too.

true, but it is a lot more unlikely that LA can pass Winnipeg/Minnesota without passing both us and Vancouver at the same time. If both the Jets and Wild would actually lose a game once in a while, and the pacific trio can gain ground on them, then it'll be a crapshoot once again. They just have a little too much breathing room at the moment.

[Roof-Daddy]

At this point it basically boils down to us and LA battling for third in our division.

Two teams, one spot IMO.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

At this point it basically boils down to us and LA battling for third in our division.

Two teams, one spot IMO.

Us verses the defending Stanley Cup champion

what fun.

[Caged Great]

The three likeliest teams to be fighting for two spots are Vancouver, LA and CGY

Vancouver 10 GM Remaining

3X 90+ points - St. Louis, Nashville, Chicago

3X 80+ points - Winnipeg, Los Angeles, Winnipeg, Dallas,

2X 70+ points - Colorado,

2X Worse - Arizona, Edmonton

Home - Winnipeg, Colorado, Dallas, Los Angeles, Arizona, Edmonton

Road - St. Louis, Nashville, Chicago, Winnipeg,



Calgary 9 GM Remaining

2X 90+ points - Nashville, St. Louis

3X 80+ points - Minnesota, Los Angeles, Winnipeg, Dallas, Dallas

2X Worse - Arizona, Edmonton

Home - Dallas, Arizona, Los Angeles

Road - Minnesota, Nashville, Dallas, St. Louis, Edmonton, Winnipeg


Los Angeles 10 GM Remaining

3X 90+ points - Rangers, Islanders, Chicago,

3X 80+ points - Minnesota, Vancouver, Calgary,

2X 70+ points - Colorado, San Jose

2X Worse - Edmonton, Edmonton,

Home - Colorado, San Jose, Edmonton

Road - Rangers, Islanders, Chicago, Minnesota, Vancouver, Calgary

[Caged Great]

Calgary plays 1 less than both Vancouver and LA against top teams, and one more than Van against 70+ point teams, while having 1 less against the easier teams than Van.

[Tsawwassen]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

At this point it basically boils down to us and LA battling for third in our division.

Two teams, one spot IMO.

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Us verses the defending Stanley Cup champion

what fun.

It boils down to the Flames, Canucks, and Kings for 2nd and 3rd in the division. The Flames lead the Kings by 2 points, the Canucks lead the Flames by 2 points. Canucks vs Cup champs would be fun to see either team not make it while the Flames watch to see who their opponenent would be.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

The three likeliest teams to be fighting for two spots are Vancouver, LA and CGY

Vancouver 11 GM Remaining

3X 90+ points - St. Louis, Nashville, Chicago

3X 80+ points - Winnipeg, Los Angeles, Winnipeg

2X 70+ points - Colorado, Dallas,

3X Worse - Arizona, Arizona, Edmonton

Home - Winnipeg, Colorado, Dallas, Los Angeles, Arizona, Edmonton

Road - Arizona, St. Louis, Nashville, Chicago, Winnipeg,



Calgary 10 GM Remaining

2X 90+ points - Nashville, St. Louis

3X 80+ points - Minnesota, Los Angeles, Winnipeg

3X 70+ points - Colorado, Dallas, Dallas

2X Worse - Arizona, Edmonton

Home - Colorado, Dallas, Arizona, Los Angeles

Road - Minnesota, Nashville, Dallas, St. Louis, Edmonton, Winnipeg


Los Angeles 11 GM Remaining

3X 90+ points - Rangers, Islanders, Chicago,

3X 80+ points - Minnesota, Vancouver, Calgary,

3X 70+ points - New Jersey,Colorado, San Jose

2X Worse - Edmonton, Edmonton,

Home - Colorado, San Jose, Edmonton

Road - Rangers, Islanders, Chicago, Minnesota, Vancouver, Calgary

While the 5 game road trip for LA looks tough on paper it is probably more in LA's favour. The Minny and Chicago games are back to back games for the home teams. LA will probably get a tired team and the back-up. In my opinion Flames will need to go 7-3 to beat out LA. That's tough.

I think the team to beat for the flames to make it is Winnipeg. They play Canucks twice, Canadians, Blackhawks, Rangers, Blues and Minny as tough teams. The final game of season is against Flames. Granted Winnipeg has advantage of being home for that game and it's an afternoon game.

[foshizzle11]

I bet every team in the west will play their best against LA, nobody wants to play them in the 1st round. They are good once the playoffs start. If teams can eliminate them now, why not. Every team in the west would rather play the flames or jets. And every eastern team in the playoffs don't want to meet them in the SCF (NYR and NYI this trip).

All those teams playing at home will play their starters and I think the Kings will be lucky to come off that road trip at 3-2. Hell they might even be bringing Richards up for a little veteran help. Let's hope he still sucks.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

While the 5 game road trip for LA looks tough on paper it is probably more in LA's favour. The Minny and Chicago games are back to back games for the home teams. LA will probably get a tired team and the back-up. In my opinion Flames will need to go 7-3 to beat out LA. That's tough.

I think the team to beat for the flames to make it is Winnipeg. They play Canucks twice, Canadians, Blackhawks, Rangers, Blues and Minny as tough teams. The final game of season is against Flames. Granted Winnipeg has advantage of being home for that game and it's an afternoon game.

I think that's aggressive, as with us holding the tiebreaker, that means LA going 8-3, which is tough.
I think 6-4 will do it.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

I think that's aggressive, as with us holding the tiebreaker, that means LA going 8-3, which is tough.
I think 6-4 will do it.

If we go 6-4 AND win the LA game in regulation, LA would then need to be 7-2-1 in the other 10 games they have.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

I think that's aggressive, as with us holding the tiebreaker, that means LA going 8-3, which is tough.
I think 6-4 will do it.

I don't think LA getting 16 points in 11 games will be that hard. I see them going 3-1-1 on this 5 game road trip. After that they got Oilers twice , av's and San Jose, who I doubt at that time of season will put up much of a fight. The 2 wild card games are Canucks and flames . Standing by what I said, Winnipeg has the harder schedule coming down the pipe.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I don't think LA getting 16 points in 11 games will be that hard. I see them going 3-1-1 on this 5 game road trip. After that they got Oilers twice , av's and San Jose, who I doubt at that time of season will put up much of a fight. The 2 wild card games are Canucks and flames . Standing by what I said, Winnipeg has the harder schedule coming down the pipe.

Fair.

[Caged Great]

San Jose and Colorado are done and Dallas is hanging on by a hair.

Ironic that Calgary ended Iginla's playoff hopes for this season.


Can any of Minnesota, Vancouver, Winnipeg, or Los Angeles please lose. Any time now.

[AC]

Another way of looking at the magic numbers is to just double it to get the number of combined points gained / points lost needed, right?

Seems like that would be less confusing considering every mention of magic numbers requires several explanations throughout it seems.

9.5 x 2 = 19 points to eliminate LA.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

San Jose and Colorado are done and Dallas is hanging on by a hair.

Ironic that Calgary ended Iginla's playoff hopes for this season.


Can any of Minnesota, Vancouver, Winnipeg, or Los Angeles please lose. Any time now.

Let's do the same thing to D. Sutter.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by AC

Another way of looking at the magic numbers is to just double it to get the number of combined points gained / points lost needed, right?

Seems like that would be less confusing considering every mention of magic numbers requires several explanations throughout it seems.

9.5 x 2 = 19 points to eliminate LA.

Great idea. I've incorporated it into the main post.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Just need to adjust the table and add minnesota.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

Just need to adjust the table and add minnesota.

how did I miss that....

[Cheerio]

Winnipeg has 88 points not 89

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

Winnipeg has 88 points not 89

There was a couple of errors I think Winnipeg on the list is actually Minnesota. Whatever the case, It'll be fixed shortly.