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Old 03-19-2015, 04:50 PM   #21
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Thanks for posting the article, I'm gonna get some mileage out of this one with the few hippy friends I have.
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Old 03-19-2015, 04:51 PM   #22
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This article was linked to on a local FB group I'm a part of. One of the homeopathic ladies crapped a brick and started railing against doctors and nurses and hospitals and how they are wrong and we should just trust our instincts and on and on and on.

Right. Because I'm going to take you seriously, when you advocate for putting essential oils into a child's eyes, or tell me that this particular combination of lemur piss, lavendar and elephant dung will stop spinal fusion, or say that a child's asthma has been cured by running a vacuum cleaner. Pfft. Let me know when you've received your medical license, amuse-dooosh.
I think we might be part of the same facebook group ...

The excuses and 'arguments' that get tossed around when stories like this come up are hilarious. Such as attempting to argue that pharmaceutical drugs don't get researched - we are just told they do...
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Also bugs me to hear all the Chiro ads on Fan 960.

Health Canada seems to take no interest in false health claims made by CAM purveyors.

If not Health Canada, how about Consumer Protection or Better Business?
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Old 03-19-2015, 04:58 PM   #24
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Fair to call me out on that.

As it stands, they do stress the importance of the safety of the product. As much as they state "efficacy", I don't believe that is an easy task. There are far too many bogus experiments and research articles out there. Just because there is "science" to back something up, it doesn't mean the "science" is correct or derived in a scientifically acceptable manner.
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Obviously the only answer is to take colloidal silver, #1 For Sure, The Wonder Cure! (PS don't Google this)
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Fair to call me out on that.

As it stands, they do stress the importance of the safety of the product. As much as they state "efficacy", I don't believe that is an easy task. There are far too many bogus experiments and research articles out there. Just because there is "science" to back something up, it doesn't mean the "science" is correct or derived in a scientifically acceptable manner.
This is what I was kind of saying. It's not health Canada's role to protect the consumer. False cancer curing homoeopathic medications would not be approved die to safety concerns. Fake cough suppressants though, not so much.

There does need to be something done though
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There does need to be something done though
I suggest arresting a whole boatload of people for fraud. Just me though.

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I think we might be part of the same facebook group ...

The excuses and 'arguments' that get tossed around when stories like this come up are hilarious. Such as attempting to argue that pharmaceutical drugs don't get researched - we are just told they do...
Is it one where a nurse has now posted the link again but has only had one response to argue for homeopathic meds?

As I've said, I'm much happier to take my chances with things backed by scientific evidence and peer reviewed articles than someone's mommy telling people to just combine this EO and that EO and run the $3K vacuum to deal with someone's child's asthma. AFAIC, that's tantamount to practicing medicine without a license and you should be nailed for that AND charged if that child dies.

ETA: oh my bad. Now the resident American transplant "all natural" conspiracy theorist has posted. I'm going to enjoy watching the nurse take that one apart.

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Wait...There's something wrong with Polysporin?

My immediate question too. More details please.
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My immediate question too. More details please.
Not per se, but there's little use for it. In fact, it's us vast overuse is likely contributing to antibiotic resistance.

Got a burn but no broken skin? Don't need it.
Got a small cut? Don't need it
Think you have pink eye and need polysporin drops? You almost assuredly don't have it.
Have a rash? Very, very small chance polysporin will help

Can't think of too many legitimate uses
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...so...polysporin does work?
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Yes, but not well and generally isn't needed
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Not per se, but there's little use for it. In fact, it's us vast overuse is likely contributing to antibiotic resistance.

Got a burn but no broken skin? Don't need it.
Got a small cut? Don't need it
Think you have pink eye and need polysporin drops? You almost assuredly don't have it.
Have a rash? Very, very small chance polysporin will help

Can't think of too many legitimate uses
Hunh. Well...

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Old 03-19-2015, 09:20 PM   #34
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Hmm. I've been using it as lube so I don't get STDs. None so far! Must be working.
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^You should go to Street Pharmacist's and get him to sell you some tiger repellant.
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9/10 I'm sending someone home with nothing after convincing them not to take a product that they have in their hands (polysporin, vitamins, cold FX, etc).
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Not per se, but there's little use for it. In fact, it's us vast overuse is likely contributing to antibiotic resistance.

Got a burn but no broken skin? Don't need it.
Got a small cut? Don't need it
Think you have pink eye and need polysporin drops? You almost assuredly don't have it.
Have a rash? Very, very small chance polysporin will help

Can't think of too many legitimate uses
Well d'uuuuuh none of that stuff works, and you're part of the evil not to be trusted synthetic medicine conglomerate controlled by Big Pharma and the government - how DARE you sell that devil "medicine", you disgusting capitalist schmuck that's just out to poison the very souls of people? And their children - why won't you think of their children? Killing them from the inside out with your evil potions, before they've even had a chance to liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive? ESPECIALLY, when you can just use lavendar oil on your cuts, scrapes and burns. OIL on your burns, people. Get with the program.

ADHD? Pfft, screw your evil pill. Don't put that in your precious. Just give him Lavendar, Vetiver, Cedarwood and RutaVala. Rub that gold mix on the bottoms of their feet - instantly better. You depressed? Oh, there's a mix for that too. Frankincense, Joy, Valor, Lavendar, Orange, and Lemon - inhale that stuff and rub it on your forehead. Slap it into a capsule and swallow it. Instantly, you are happy happy happy happy. </duckdynasty>

Frig, did you know essential oils can cure terminal cancer? If you'd only just let the woman into the room of your dying child at Children's hospital, she just knows she can succeed where the doctors have failed, doncha know? Oh yes, just let her in there, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease. You won't lose your precious baby. (actually watched that play out).

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