03-17-2015, 12:11 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Calgary
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Flames GM Treliving excited, eager for stretch run
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Johnny Gaudreau has had a phenomenal rookie season. How much do you believe his creativity and his flair enabled the Flames to be so successful at coming back in games?
"Well you can't replace skill. There's no substitute for just ability. He's brought us a real skillset, a dynamic element. Those comebacks are a combination of will, but no question he's added an extremely high level of talent to our group."
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Have you seen the belief grow in the absence of Giordano? The team is 5-2-1 without him.
"Let's start out with we're not a better team by taking our captain out. ..."
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03-17-2015, 04:30 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Republic of Panama
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...and he can thank Jay Feaster for that.
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03-17-2015, 04:32 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Barnet - North London
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Originally Posted by FlamingHomer
...and he can thank Jay Feaster for that.
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We can all thank Jay Feaster.
I love how he still loves us.
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03-17-2015, 04:52 PM
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Franchise Player
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Jay Feaster was a bad GM who bungled his way into building a decent team thanks to the great work of our scouting and our coaching staff at the NHL and AHL levels.
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03-17-2015, 04:56 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Okotoks
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
Jay Feaster was a bad GM who bungled his way into building a decent team thanks to the great work of our scouting and our coaching staff at the NHL and AHL levels.
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Wouldn't a good GM listen to the advice of his scouts?
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03-17-2015, 04:57 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: TEXAS!!
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
Jay Feaster was a bad GM who bungled his way into building a decent team thanks to the great work of our scouting and our coaching staff at the NHL and AHL levels.
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I think there is some truth in this.
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03-17-2015, 04:57 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
Jay Feaster was a bad GM who bungled his way into building a decent team thanks to the great work of our scouting and our coaching staff at the NHL and AHL levels.
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Feaster made some boneheaded decisions for sure, but this team wouldn't be nearly as far along in the rebuild without him.
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03-17-2015, 04:59 PM
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Franchise Player
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There's a reason the scouts are still here and Feaster isn't and it's not because Feaster did an awesome job.
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03-17-2015, 04:59 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: TEXAS!!
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Originally Posted by cKy
Wouldn't a good GM listen to the advice of his scouts?
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A good GM would also tie his shoes. This doesn't mean that anyone who ties their shoes is a good GM.
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03-17-2015, 05:04 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by nik-
There's a reason the scouts are still here and Feaster isn't and it's not because Feaster did an awesome job.
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What is that reason? How come the same head scout couldn't get the job done under Sutter but did with Feaster?
Feaster made his fair share of mistakes, but he deserves a ton of credit. The biggest of which is hiring Hartley. Or did the scouts do that too?
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03-17-2015, 05:09 PM
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Often Thinks About Pickles
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Okotoks
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Feaster didn't have the greatest record when it came to trades or prospective trades.
But he did have the ability to recognize talent. And this is not a given for most GMs. We've even had a few here that sucked really badly in that department. When Jay arrived the cupboard was bare. Thanks to Jay its fully stocked and you might even say its overflowing.
No way we would be competing for a playoff spot if it weren't for Jay.
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03-17-2015, 05:09 PM
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Franchise Player
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We're lucky Feaster didn't have time to ruin the rebuild. Because he would have found a way.
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03-17-2015, 05:13 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
Jay Feaster was a bad GM who bungled his way into building a decent team thanks to the great work of our scouting and our coaching staff at the NHL and AHL levels.
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Feaster did a lot.
Bring in Hartley.
Expanding and improving the scouting (he even hired an outside firm to help with the analytics & decision making)
Trading Bouwmeester's contract
Signing Wideman & Hudler & Ramo
Keeping Giordano, Backlund, Brodie, Stajan around
Trading for Russell
None of those things are "drafting".
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03-17-2015, 05:14 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YYC
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This isn't an official GM rating thing but this is how I see Feaster fairing as our GM:
Hockey Trades-6/10 (Smid and probably a couple minor ones)
Blockbuster trades- 2/10 (Bad returns for Iggy and JBO even if the market was bad)
UFA- 8/10 (Hudler and Wideman are proving to be brilliant signings)
RFA offers- 0/10 (Ryan O'Riely)
Drafting- 8/10 (In big part to the drafting crew)
Reclamation/project trades- 7/10 (Colbourne, Russel, Knight, etc.)
Asset management- 8/10 (Butler or Jokinien walked for free)
Jay was a smart GM but very dumb at the same time. Very inconsistant and lacking hockey knowledge but overall I would say he made as many good plays as he did bad.
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03-17-2015, 05:14 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Table 5
What is that reason? How come the same head scout couldn't get the job done under Sutter but did with Feaster?
Feaster made his fair share of mistakes, but he deserves a ton of credit. The biggest of which is hiring Hartley. Or did the scouts do that too?
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I would assume that the scouts did not hire Hartley.
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Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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03-17-2015, 05:14 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Awesome. Another Feaster thread. Maybe you guys can weigh in on the Jankowski pick as well?
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03-17-2015, 05:15 PM
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Franchise Player
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Awesome. Another Feaster thread. Maybe you guys can weigh in on the Jankowski pick as well?
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Why not just not post if it bothers you?
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Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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03-17-2015, 05:16 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
Awesome. Another Feaster thread. Maybe you guys can weigh in on the Jankowski pick as well?
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Ryan O'Reilly!!!!
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03-17-2015, 05:16 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Table 5
What is that reason? How come the same head scout couldn't get the job done under Sutter but did with Feaster?
Feaster made his fair share of mistakes, but he deserves a ton of credit. The biggest of which is hiring Hartley. Or did the scouts do that too?
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What is so great about Feasters draft record anyway? Gaudreau? Well we already know that was entirely thanks to Button. Sutter also landed a steal in the 4th round in Brodie. Seems like they are pretty equal. We may have landed Monahan under Feaster but that's because we had a 6th overall pick. Something Sutter never had the luxury of. Don't see Feaster deserving credit for an obvious pick anyways. I'd give far more credit to picks like Bouma in the 3rd round or picking up Gio. Backlund is looking like a very nice late first as well. Feaster did some wrong and did some right but his drafting is by far the most over-rated aspect of his tenure.
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03-17-2015, 05:16 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by Table 5
What is that reason? How come the same head scout couldn't get the job done under Sutter but did with Feaster?
Feaster made his fair share of mistakes, but he deserves a ton of credit. The biggest of which is hiring Hartley. Or did the scouts do that too?
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Brodie, Gio, Bouma and Backlund?
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