Mayor Naheed Nenshi on Bill 10

[ranchlandsselling]

nm

[chemgear]

FFS

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...gsas-1.2872764

Calgary’s Roman Catholic Bishop Fred Henry and Edmonton Archbishop Richard Smith have added their voices to the debate surrounding Bill 10, the controversial legislation about student-led gay-straight alliances (GSAs).

Bishop Fred Henry calls Bill 10 'a win-win for everyone'

“It infringes parental authority over their children, the freedom to instruct one’s children in a manner consistent with their faith, and citizens rights to manifest their religious beliefs by worship and practice in the absence of coercion or constraint by government.”

Bill 10 was introduced to counter a private member's bill from Liberal MLA Laurie Blakeman that would have made GSAs mandatory in schools where students wanted them. Advocates for the extracurricular groups say they help protect LGBT students from bullying by creating a supportive atmosphere.

Blakeman said Sunday's letters make it clear that Smith and Henry are not interested in making accommodations in this debate.

"In taking the very strong stand that the bishop and archbishop have taken, they have thrown down the gauntlet, they've thrown down the gloves and said this is a fight," she said

[Ashartus]

These days every time Bishop Henry opens his mouth I can't help but conclude he's actually evil. Against students being allowed to form clubs that reduce suicide rates. Against a vaccination that protects against cervical cancer. It's like he has no concern for people's well being.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Ashartus

These days every time Bishop Henry opens his mouth I can't help but conclude he's actually evil. Against students being allowed to form clubs that reduce suicide rates. Against a vaccination that protects against cervical cancer. It's like he has no concern for people's well being.

It actually makes me wonder if he's discussed these things with the current Pope who seems to be much more open to ideas like this.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by chemgear

FFS

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...gsas-1.2872764

Calgary’s Roman Catholic Bishop Fred Henry and Edmonton Archbishop Richard Smith have added their voices to the debate surrounding Bill 10, the controversial legislation about student-led gay-straight alliances (GSAs).

Bishop Fred Henry calls Bill 10 'a win-win for everyone'

“It infringes parental authority over their children, the freedom to instruct one’s children in a manner consistent with their faith, and citizens rights to manifest their religious beliefs by worship and practice in the absence of coercion or constraint by government.”

Bill 10 was introduced to counter a private member's bill from Liberal MLA Laurie Blakeman that would have made GSAs mandatory in schools where students wanted them. Advocates for the extracurricular groups say they help protect LGBT students from bullying by creating a supportive atmosphere.

Blakeman said Sunday's letters make it clear that Smith and Henry are not interested in making accommodations in this debate.

"In taking the very strong stand that the bishop and archbishop have taken, they have thrown down the gauntlet, they've thrown down the gloves and said this is a fight," she said

That quote is brutal. Pretty much the exact opposite of what is going on. Students wish to form a club to help their fellow students? State Coercion, according to the Bishop. That is rich, considering the source.

[Flash Walken]

I'm all for state coercion in the form of public education that is not curbed or affronted by organized religion.

If the Catholics don't like it, they can homeschool I guess.

Or go to sunday school, like every other religion.

[tete]

Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling

It's actually a big waste of time because federally school boards have this right (afaik). So as a parent I can take my kid out or say "you can't teach that to my kid" and not have the kid participate. Federally the catholic school board cannot allow something in there school. So... The whole thing is stupid. It was a colossal waste of time. So why legislate something provincially when the federal legislation has more say over the schools. Again, that's how I recollect and could be wrong.

Regardless, there was no back peddling or anything it's just one of those topics that becomes so much more than what we're actually hearing. Becomes a "omg such and such party isn't allowing lgtb clubs" because that makes a great sound clip.

What do you mean, "federally"? Education is a provincial responsibility, every province has their own Education Act (Public Schools Act, etc). Do you mean that the federal Charter of Rights overrides the provincial Acts?

As for the original post - yay Nenshi.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by tete

What do you mean, "federally"? Education is a provincial responsibility, every province has their own Education Act (Public Schools Act, etc). Do you mean that the federal Charter of Rights overrides the provincial Acts?

As for the original post - yay Nenshi.

I believe Alberta's separate schools are constitutionally protected.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

I believe Alberta's separate schools are constitutionally protected.

I don't believe so. Other provinces have no separate board, so it can't be a constitutional requirement.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Slava

I don't believe so. Other provinces have no separate board, so it can't be a constitutional requirement.

http://changenowforgood.ca/separate-...titution-2015/

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Slava

I don't believe so. Other provinces have no separate board, so it can't be a constitutional requirement.

You assume all provinces are equal. They are not. I'm not a constitutional lawyer but the Alberta Act forms part of the constitution and the Alberta Act includes a separate school board.

[SebC]

Bill 10 has passed, but with an ammendment eliminating the option for school boards to refuse the creation of a GSA (and forcing the student to go to an appeal board).



Looking into the votes, the quote below seems to imply that the Wildrose made good on their word to be a more progressive party, with the "laggards" being a couple of PCs.

The vote did not pass unanimously, two PC MLAs voted against the amendment to Bill 10 -- Ian Donovan and Bruce Rowe.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/edm...tory/1.2989399

[troutman]

Saw this yesterday. Nenshi is so terrible he drove this poor Sun Reader away:

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by troutman

Saw this yesterday. Nenshi is so terrible he drove this poor Sun Reader away:

Bishop Henry's house?

[chemgear]

Trolls gonna troll.

http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/calgary-s...ools-1.2737534

Calgary's Catholic bishop is calling for the outright rejection of Alberta's plan to draw up rules to assist LGBTQ students in schools.

In a public letter, Bishop Fred Henry says the plan is "totalitarian" and calls it a "forceful imposition of a particular narrow-minded anti-Catholic ideology."

He also criticizes peer support networks in schools -- known as gay-straight alliances -- as directly contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church.

[corporatejay]

That guy is a ####ing dinosaur.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

A totally irrelevant dinosaur. At this point it's clear as it could be that no one should be listening to the Catholic Church on matters even tangentially relating to sexuality.

[nik-]

must suck to be completely out of step with your own Pope.

[Canehdianman]

Being directly contrary to the Catholic Church sounds exactly like where I like to be.

[calf]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Trolls gonna troll.

http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/calgary-s...ools-1.2737534

Calgary's Catholic bishop is calling for the outright rejection of Alberta's plan to draw up rules to assist LGBTQ students in schools.

In a public letter, Bishop Fred Henry says the plan is "totalitarian" and calls it a "forceful imposition of a particular narrow-minded anti-Catholic ideology."

He also criticizes peer support networks in schools -- known as gay-straight alliances -- as directly contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church.

How can he, with a straight face, call someone else totalitarian and narrow-minded? That's the exact opposite of what this bill does.