How Screwed are the Flames?

[Obsidian]

It all goes back to something the Oilers wouldn't be familiar with - team defence.

You don't have to possess the puck 80% of the game to pull out a win, or even deserve it. It's what you do with the puck when it is in your possession. If the other team is skating with the puck much of the game, but you're strong without it, keep them to the perimeter and make few mistakes, then that possession time for them is useless.

When the Blackhawks were on their rise to contention around 2007-09, you'd notice they did the EXACT same thing. They were a speed and transition team. They had a few young, skill players that could burn you the second you turned the puck over, even if you were cycling in their end for a good few shifts. We appear to be on a similar path in our playing style. As our core matures and players reach their potential, those advanced stats will turn in our favour. For now, this is the way we win games. But it's still a way to do it.

Hating doesn't make the Oilers any less of a complete and utter wreck rooted in incompetence.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Quincy Egg

I'll take examples of sample size for $200, Alex.

The decline will happen this season, or in the 2015/16 season (assuming the possession numbers are similar.) Like it or not, there is a strong correlation between success and possession numbers.

Or the next year. Or if not then, 2018...? It's gotta happen right?
Or...
We. Just. Win.

[dash_pinched]

This the same Ryan Lambert who said the Flames should return Sean Monahan to junior and keeping him in Calgary was a huge mistake? Yeah, all-righty then.

[Gaudfather]

How screwed is Ryan Lambert when the Flames keep defying his predictions.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

That was really hard to read.

In case Ryan is eyeing this thread, I greatly recommend this vital book:

On Writing Well by William Zinsser

It is an indispensable resource to ensure clarity of message.

[PIMking]

MOD EDIT: Too much.

[Goodlad]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

This the same Ryan Lambert who said the Flames should return Sean Monahan to junior and keeping him in Calgary was a huge mistake? Yeah, all-righty then.

That's the one. He also said naming Giordano captain was "poor asset management. Should have traded him instead"

[Badgers Nose]

Where do you find time to read this ####? There is hardly enough time to read the good stuff.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Actual NHL players/managers/coaches must laugh their asses off if/when they read some of the stuff desk jockeys like Lambert come up with. Why even play the games at this point? Calgary should just forfeit the rest of the season since they're obviously not winning the Corsi Cup this year.

[N-E-B]

Ryan Lambert is the Edmonton Oilers of "journalism"... If you can even call that garbage journalism...

[wingmaker]

Same guy who wrote an entire article making fun of the Flames this summer when the rumour of re-signing Glencross went around. Based on that rumour, he lambasted the Flames for concerning themselves with Glencross ahead of Brodie and Backlund. Fast forward a few months and Brodie is re-signed to a great value contract and Glencross is traded for picks. He really does just want to hate on the Flames.

[Vinny01]

Man I don't get why this guy hates the Flames so much. Isn't he based out east or something? Like what a complete tool

[Quincy Egg]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Is this back to the whole Toronto and Colorado thing again?

Toronto failed not because of possession numbers or advanced stats decline but when they had the good year they had a rotten blueline a defensively substandard forward group and got ungodly goaltending

They failed the next year because their goaltending fell back to nornal.

Colorado last year received unbelievable all world goaltending which disguised a poor blueline, and they got a lot of scoring. This year the goaltending wasn't as good and they got exposed.

I would argue that The Flames shouldn't be a victim of the same decline because they're team is more balanced from the start, they have strong two way forwards and a decent defensive core and don't need to depending on god goaltending every night.

PDO was designed to value a team like the Detroit Redwings who play a possession game, the Flames don't follow the game plan so their possession numbers are lower.

Again, there's no correlation unless you look at the make up of the team, the game plan and the unusual factors like goaltenders that normally wouldn't have superstar seasons having superstar seasons.

Calgary has one of the highest OSh%'s in the league. They are simply getting scoring at opportune times despite getting trounced in corsi-events. Colorado and the Leafs did it with good goaltending, the Flames are doing it with an aberrative shooting %.

[automaton 3]

Such anger in his words and no attempt at balance or explanation other than "luck".

He should be embarrassed by that quality of work, but I suppose he got a few clicks so mission accomplished.

[FFR]

I got through the first few paragraphs then quit. In this short snippet he says that the Flames have seven or eight players having really good seasons and then the rest are just average. And this apparently means the Flames are terrible. But seriously, aren't most teams built the same way? 1/4 to 1/3 of the team is really good and the rest are average/role players?

(I think his 7 or 8 is under valuing a few Flames players who are having career years, but that's a different point altogether.)

[FBI]

ZOMG ADVANCED STATS IS EVERYTHING!!!!!!$&##%

What a nob. Do some research outside of corsi and fenwick.

[wingmaker]

Another classic "if you don't have good advanced stats you are just lucky and the luck with eventually run out" article. People sure do think there is a lot of luck in hockey.

[Chonger]

Is lambert DOOM?

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Quincy Egg

Calgary has one of the highest OSh%'s in the league. They are simply getting scoring at opportune times despite getting trounced in corsi-events. Colorado and the Leafs did it with good goaltending, the Flames are doing it with an aberrative shooting %.

Don't worry, I'm sure starting next game that will stop and flames will start losing. Then you can come in here going "neener, neener, neener" while you stick your tongue out at us, reveling in our demise.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

This the same Ryan Lambert who said the Flames should return Sean Monahan to junior and keeping him in Calgary was a huge mistake? Yeah, all-righty then.

In the same article he also said Monahan spent most of last season playing wing not at center. When questioned on it he quit twitter (again) for a stretch.

In terms of sheer stupidity, few are his equals.