Phaneuf, Cuthbert, and Lupul seeking damages from TSN & Tweeter

[Buster]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

That's a fair argument but Buster has been very clear in his position that freedom of speech is freedom of speech and that our words should not have consequences. He made a small caveat that death threats are off the table, but anything else is fair game.

He's not argued that Phaneuf is a public figure, or really anything about the "defender." Just that the "offender" should be covered by freedom of speech or we lose our liberty.

I think this is a fair way to characterize my point. I only come here maybe a couple of times a day, and don't post frequently. I'm not inclined to spam the board with a response to each of the 18 people who disagree with me. I'll scan the responses and if there is one or two that are interesting then I will respond. I'm not overly concerned if people think I'm ignoring them. But if a quick scan of a post reveals a dis-interesting or specious point (or engages a straw man fallacy for instance), then I will probably just skip over it. If I have done that to some users more than once it's not deliberate, and I wouldn't notice their username probably anyway. More importantly, a lack of response on my part doesn't indicate that I have capitulated on some point. You've probably just made a post I don't think is worth me hitting reply and typing.

My point is an ideological one, and so a disagreement on how the law is interpreted is less important to me than whether the action is right or wrong. Modern democracies constantly re-adjust their laws. It's taken us nearly a hundred years to figure out that we shouldn't be throwing people in jail en-masse for possession of a plant, or that we should permit gay people to marry.

[Resolute 14]

You, of all people, should not be accusing others of engaging in a strawman fallacy.

And yes, despite your rather ungraceful attempt to side step it, your silence is speaking volumes. You know you are trapped, but lack the courage to admit it.

[Buster]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

You, of all people, should not be accusing others of engaging in a strawman fallacy.

And yes, despite your rather ungraceful attempt to side step it, your silence is speaking volumes. You know you are trapped, but lack the courage to admit it.

I actually have no idea what you are talking about. But you sound butt-hurt. If I haven't responded to your posts or said something offensive to you in the past, then it was not intentional. I read fast and don't look at usernames, so if I've been silent to your points, it's likely I didn't notice or I've chosen to respond to other people.

Forum discussions like this often have a poor signal-to-noise ratio, and so I try to only engage people who have made a point that interests me.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Buster

I actually have no idea what you are talking about. But you sound butt-hurt. If I haven't responded to your posts or said something offensive to you in the past, then it was not intentional. I read fast and don't look at usernames, so if I've been silent to your points, it's likely I didn't notice or I've chosen to respond to other people.

Forum discussions like this often have a poor signal-to-noise ratio, and so I try to only engage people who have made a point that interests me.

Un-huh. I'll ask again then: would you have a problem if someone called your employer and told your co-workers you raped a pre-teen girl?

[Buster]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Un-huh. I'll ask again then: would you have a problem if someone called your employer and told your co-workers you raped a pre-teen girl?

lol...I've scanned over this question a few times. Was that always you?

Is this your smoking-gun, silver-bullet debate point. Are you preparing a mic drop gif?

While this definitely falls into the "specious point" category, and normally would not get a response from me - I'm flattered by your persistence and will indulge you. But in the future, I would encourage you to participate in a more fruitful manner.

To wit: of course I would have a problem with it. But no, I do not think there should be a law which provides me recourse in that circumstance.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Buster

I actually have no idea what you are talking about. But you sound butt-hurt. If I haven't responded to your posts or said something offensive to you in the past, then it was not intentional. I read fast and don't look at usernames, so if I've been silent to your points, it's likely I didn't notice or I've chosen to respond to other people.

Forum discussions like this often have a poor signal-to-noise ratio, and so I try to only engage people who have made a point that interests me.

Don't worry some people just take themselves way more seriously than others.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Buster

lol...I've scanned over this question a few times. Was that always you?

Is this your smoking-gun, silver-bullet debate point. Are you preparing a mic drop gif?

While this definitely falls into the "specious point" category, and normally would not get a response from me - I'm flattered by your persistence and will indulge you. But in the future, I would encourage you to participate in a more fruitful manner.

To wit: of course I would have a problem with it. But no, I do not think there should be a law which provides me recourse in that circumstance.

Interesting. So if you lost your job and your livelihood over it, you feel that the party that wronged you should get off scott free? If that truly is what you believe - and I really doubt it - then you have one of the more effed up moral compasses I have ever encountered in a person.

As to the rest of that, I already knew you were full of yourself. You don't need to belabour the point.

[Hackey]

That's when you take it to the streets and handle it yourself.

[Resolute 14]

Heh. So you either win the fight, and end up in jail to go with your lost employment. Or you lose the fight, and end up in hospital, then jail, and still lose your employment.

Free speech FTW!

[Hackey]

MOD EDIT: Please don't speculate about players' personal lives. We don't want that stuff here.

[CalgaryFan1988]

MOD EDIT: Not a good contribution to the thread.

[Hackey]

Ohhhhhh damnnnn burnnnnnnn!!! Tough crowd.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Ohhhhhh damnnnn burnnnnnnn!!! Tough crowd.

My point is, your sex life, their sex life, it's nobody's business but their own.

Judging by your posts, you're pretty young, so maybe one day you'll grow up.

[Hackey]

I wasn't being serious. Just trying to lighten the mood because some people seem to be getting pretty upset over this whole thing. Carry on.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/03...n_6801776.html

Under the story - Celebrities in Canadian Hockey Jerseys!

[Hackey]

Mod edit: knock it off

[photon]

Originally Posted by Tacopuck

So libel really only becomes libel until it reaches a mass audience where it can actually effect the public perception of the player.

It's published and potentially visible to the entire world (not just his followers) so in Canada for libel it's assumed that harm was done. For slander like in your shouting on the street example then yeah damages have to be substantiated.

[BloodFetish]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

All the more reason to avoid social media outlets like Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc. I can't wait until this social media fad fades away and all those companies come crashing down. A world without hashtags, @ symbols and status updates will be a better place.

Can't thank that one enough.

I hope TSN decides rebroadcasting tweets is an inherently dangerous pastime and stops doing it.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Hackey

I wasn't being serious. Just trying to lighten the mood because some people seem to be getting pretty upset over this whole thing. Carry on.

And given this thread and everything in it you thought that was a good call? Come on help us out here.

[questionmotives]

Looks like people got their wish. TSN to stop airing Tweets on live broadcasts...

http://deadspin.com/tsn-will-no-long...ium=socialflow