03-03-2015, 06:04 PM
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#121
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
Actually, that's exactly what it means.
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No, no it doesn't. Absolutely doesn't.
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03-03-2015, 06:04 PM
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#122
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Disenfranchised
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
Actually, that's exactly what it means.
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Oh boy.
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03-03-2015, 06:06 PM
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#123
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
Actually, that's exactly what it means.
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No, that is not. Freedom of Speech means that the government cannot persecute you for your speech. You have no such right vis a vis anyone else.
And are you going to answer the question I posed to you?
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03-03-2015, 06:08 PM
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#124
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
No, no it doesn't. Absolutely doesn't.
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I'm not really an absolutist on the topic. There are some restrictions/exceptions that absolutely make sense. But the bar must be high...
I'm not making the argument that you can make death threats, or yell "fire" in a movie theater, or make bomb threats.
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03-03-2015, 06:09 PM
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#125
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Antithesis
Oh boy.
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Slander and libel had good runs, but their existence just got wiped out by the Supreme Court of CP. Legal analyses on this landmark legislation coming up during the second intermission...
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03-03-2015, 06:10 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
I'm not really an absolutist on the topic. There are some restrictions/exceptions that absolutely make sense. But the bar must be high...
I'm not making the argument that you can make death threats, or yell "fire" in a movie theater, or make bomb threats.
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Or make knowingly false and damaging statements about someone?...
Free speech doesn't protect you from consequences of those words. Having a bad day and call your boss an "idiot", you'll be fired before you know it. Free speech doesn't protect you from that, you're still responsible for your words.
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03-03-2015, 06:11 PM
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#127
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
I'm not really an absolutist on the topic. There are some restrictions/exceptions that absolutely make sense. But the bar must be high...
I'm not making the argument that you can make death threats, or yell "fire" in a movie theater, or make bomb threats.
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LMAO
Don't hurt your back moving those goalposts, m'kay?
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03-03-2015, 06:13 PM
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#128
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
I'm not really an absolutist on the topic. There are some restrictions/exceptions that absolutely make sense. But the bar must be high...
I'm not making the argument that you can make death threats, or yell "fire" in a movie theater, or make bomb threats.
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So freedom of speech until it crosses your arbitrary definition of going overboard? Lol got it. So really, you just argued against freedom of speech as how you defined it in this thread.
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03-03-2015, 06:13 PM
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#129
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Disenfranchised
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.
Slander and libel had good runs, but their existence just got wiped out by the Supreme Court of CP. Legal analyses on this landmark legislation coming up during the second intermission...
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Court of Queen's Bench < Supreme Court of Canada < Charter of Rights and Freedoms < Supreme Court of CP
All rise! Supreme Court of CP is now in session, the Honourable Justice Buster presiding.
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03-03-2015, 06:14 PM
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#130
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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What was actually said in the tweet?
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03-03-2015, 06:16 PM
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#132
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Antithesis
Court of Queen's Bench < Supreme Court of Canada < Charter of Rights and Freedoms < Supreme Court of CP
All rise! Supreme Court of CP is now in session, the Honourable Justice Buster presiding.
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Freedom of speech protected rumours suggest that Justice Buster's mother was a hamster and that his father smelt of elderberries.
I'm here all game folks...
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03-03-2015, 06:17 PM
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#133
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Antithesis
Court of Queen's Bench < Supreme Court of Canada < Charter of Rights and Freedoms < Supreme Court of CP
All rise! Supreme Court of CP is now in session, the Honourable Justice Buster presiding.
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Your Honour, I can prove, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the defendant is, in fact, an Oilers fan. And I will be asking for either the death penalty or for the defendant to be forced to watch all Oilers hockey games, whichever is worse.
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03-03-2015, 06:18 PM
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#134
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man
So freedom of speech until it crosses your arbitrary definition of going overboard? Lol got it. So really, you just argued against freedom of speech as how you defined it in this thread.
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I'm fine agreeing that we have a different place for that arbitrary definition....sure.
Unless you are suggesting salacious gossip is somehow equivalent to a death threat? That's a false equivalency and a straw man argument.
Although sports message boards are not renowned for their nuanced discussions. 
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03-03-2015, 06:18 PM
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#135
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Deelow
They do it because if 10,000 people are tweeting using the hash tag, there's a good chance many of them will tune in longer hoping to see their tweet appear on the screen. It's a way of engaging the audience and rewarding the engagement, which leads to higher viewership.
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That's the theory at least, but is it actually true? "Engagement" like that seems like a meaningless buzzword.
What does this engagement really get TSN? It would be interesting to see the numbers. It can only be a small fraction of their audience actually tweeting at them and they are probably not a particularly attractive demographic to advertisers.
I would think a much bigger chunk of their audience is at least somewhat turned-off by the endless inane chatter and busy screen. I know I am. I don't care what some jerkoff in Mississauga has to say, and if I did care, I'd look it up. So I didn't watch, even for a minute, this year. I had their actual Trade Tracker that simply put actual trades on the screen.
It's like reading the paper, and they have random letters to the editor mixed in with the actual journalism. At least online sources put the stupid stuff at the bottom where you don't have to see it if you don't want to. TSN and everyone else putting twitter on TV is just jamming the dumb down your throat.
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03-03-2015, 06:19 PM
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#136
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
Unless you are suggesting salacious gossip is somehow equivalent to a death threat? That's a false equivalency and a straw man argument.
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Would you be okay if someone called your employer and told your co-workers that you raped a pre-teen girl?
It's only "salacious gossip", right?
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03-03-2015, 06:21 PM
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#137
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
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If there was ever an argument for my position, it's this post.
Are you afraid to post it?
Should you be sued if you do?
Is linking to it the same or different than actually posting it?
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03-03-2015, 06:21 PM
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#138
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Disenfranchised
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Your Honour, I can prove, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the defendant is, in fact, an Oilers fan. And I will be asking for either the death penalty or for the defendant to be forced to watch all Oilers hockey games, whichever is worse.
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Truly, the very definition of cruel and unusual punishment.
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03-03-2015, 06:22 PM
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#139
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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All kidding aside though, if this went to court in Canada, am I correct in assuming that it's not sufficient for it to be false and that Phaneuf et al would have to show actual harm?
In other words, it's not sufficient for them simply to say that this hurt their feelings, correct?
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03-03-2015, 06:22 PM
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#140
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
If there was ever an argument for my position, it's this post.
Are you afraid to post it?
Should you be sued if you do?
Is linking to it the same or different than actually posting it?
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Lol.
Am I afraid to say that TSN is threatened with being sued for posting a tweet about Lupul having intercourse with Phaneuf's wife? No, because it's a fact.
I would be afraid/stupid to post the tweet as fact though.
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