View Poll Results: How do you feel about the Baertschi trade
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Flames did very well.
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Flames did okay considering the circumstances
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Neutral. Don't really care.
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Vancouver did okay.
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Vancouver fleeced he Flames.
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03-02-2015, 02:23 PM
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#341
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Franchise Player
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so a guy with 8 AHL goals is asking for a trade and stating he won't re-sign after his entry level deal is up? If that is true GTFO
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03-02-2015, 02:23 PM
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#342
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: The toilet of Alberta : Edmonton
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Flames trade Baertschi to Canucks for a 2015 2nd round pick
So has there been a firm confirmation that it's a 2015 pick?
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03-02-2015, 02:23 PM
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#343
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Scoring Winger
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Ummm no it doesnt??
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Originally Posted by Ben Dover
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03-02-2015, 02:24 PM
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#344
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Franchise Player
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Only issue I have is that he was traded within the division. 2nd round pick is decent value for someone who the organization obviously had no faith in.
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03-02-2015, 02:24 PM
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#345
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
@DarrenWHaynes
Ask this. Where was Baertschi fitting in? Poirier and Ferland ahead of him, Bennett coming. Gaudreau, Monahan. Granlund. Only so many spots.
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I don't understand the logic here. Poirier is RW, Bennett is a C, Monahan is a C.
If it's a 2015 pick it's not so bad. My initial reaction was due to the reported 2017 2nd rounder.
I still honestly believe that Baertschi will be a 50 point winger. Won't know who won this trade for a couple seasons, by then we'll know what Baertschi becomes and who we draft with that 2nd rounder.
and obviously if Baertschi asked for a trade, it handcuffs the team somewhat.
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03-02-2015, 02:24 PM
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#346
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Spruce Grove
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing
Taking current standings:
15th;
45th;
48th;
50th;
75th;
(78th?);
80th.
That's a lot of early picks, especially if we also get Van's 3rd, and assuming it is Van's 2nd in 2015, as reported.
It's still not on nhl.com, though...
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The Van pick is 2017!!!
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03-02-2015, 02:25 PM
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#347
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daveinspruce
The Van pick is 2017!!!
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no it isn't. From most reliable media outlets the pick is 2015.
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03-02-2015, 02:25 PM
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#348
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Calgary
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Sad to see him go. Was really hoping he would turn around and make the team. But...if he wanted out and requested to be traded, then good riddance, and best of luck.
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03-02-2015, 02:25 PM
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#349
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN
Thomas Drance @ThomasDrance 3m3 minutes ago
"We had conversations and we could never really find a solution for me." - Baertschi when asked by @MattSekeres if he requested a trade.
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WOW... for anyone that wonders why he wasn't given one more shot, there you have it.
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03-02-2015, 02:26 PM
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#350
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonDuke
Sad to see him go. Was really hoping he would turn around and make the team. But...if he wanted out and requested to be traded, then good riddance, and best of luck.
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Best of luck?
Eff that
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03-02-2015, 02:26 PM
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#351
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Franchise Player
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Honest question. Does Sven even make the top 6 for Van? He may still hit the waiver wire next year.
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03-02-2015, 02:26 PM
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#352
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daveinspruce
The Van pick is 2017!!!
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No it's not!!!!
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03-02-2015, 02:26 PM
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#353
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parallex
It's not, the herald articule is updated with no mention of a 3rd.
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####! i'm good with the 2nd too though, almost fetched a similar return to Glencross
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03-02-2015, 02:27 PM
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#354
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Franchise Player
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Very interested to see how Willie Desjardins deals with Sven. I think old Willie is cut from the same cloth as Hartley.
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03-02-2015, 02:27 PM
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#355
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daveinspruce
The Van pick is 2017!!!
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Just about all your posts today have had troll like qualities.
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03-02-2015, 02:28 PM
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#356
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan
This thread is a great example of how badly fans overrate their own team's prospects. I think if you were to poll the league about Baertschi you would get some extremely cooled responses. His stock has fallen since draft day, which is ironic considering the huge spike upward he took the first year after the draft. It's not just his numbers either, it's his stagnation in his development in so many areas of the game that are crucial to be a good NHLer.
I'm not happy about the return, but it's mostly because Baertschi has ruined his own trade value. For a player that was going to have to clear waivers next camp and be lost for nothing, this is excellent asset management.
Not writing Sven off completely, but nothing he's done at the pro level makes me think he'll be anything more than a below average scoring winger in the NHL.
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Yep. Sven has been overrated overall by the fan base because of his early success. He really hasn't progressed much since then.
An indication of this overrating was our prospect poll this summer when Sven was ranked by the "majority" ahead of guys like Poirier and Granlund who based on their production and potential had passed him already by last summer IMO and I argued it at the time. Another mediocre season and it was obvious he was behind Bennett, Monahan, Gaudreau, Poirier, Granlund, Backlund, Hudler, and perhaps even Ferland. So where does he fit long term? He just didn't force his way into our future plans. That's the bottom line. He impressed the least out of all of our top end prospects.
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03-02-2015, 02:28 PM
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#357
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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maybe trade a couple seconds and thirds for a first?
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03-02-2015, 02:28 PM
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#358
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
Honest question. Does Sven even make the top 6 for Van? He may still hit the waiver wire next year.
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They may try it... he only has to be better than Chris Higgins & Derek Dorsett.
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03-02-2015, 02:28 PM
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#359
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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03-02-2015, 02:28 PM
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#360
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=756106
Quote:
Vancouver Canucks General Manager Jim Benning announced today that the Canucks have acquired forward Sven Baertschi from the Calgary Flames in exchange for Vancouver’s second round pick in the 2015 NHL Entry Draft.
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