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View Poll Results: How do you feel about the Baertschi trade
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Flames did very well.
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Flames did okay considering the circumstances
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Neutral. Don't really care.
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Vancouver did okay.
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Vancouver fleeced he Flames.
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03-02-2015, 02:06 PM
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#241
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Calgary, AB
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Curious as to what the canuck boards are saying about this move. Honestly, it's really to early say if this is a terrible move or not. Sure, Sven was a first rounder But he was a bust, plain and simple. We have a chance to redeem these three picks now for integral parts of our future.
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03-02-2015, 02:06 PM
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#242
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Igottago
Irrelevant and terrible logic. Even if he was never gonna play in Calgary the trade makes no sense. You don't give a decent asset to a division rival without at least a respectable return. Now I'm hearing its a 2017 pick? Even worse. Just a dumb move all around.
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Why are people so bent that he got traded to a divisional rival? Who cares. Would you rather have him traded out east for a 3rd, or traded to a rival for a 2nd? I know what I'd rather have. The Flames have to do what is best for themselves and not be concerned with if he helps another rival or not. I know it doesn't happen often, but I'd like to see some examples or the Flames trading within our division and it biting us in the ass. Sven certainly hasn't shown the ability to bite any other team in the ass when given the chance.
As others have said, the writing was on the wall with his waiver status next season and our depth on the wing. He'd have to be a lock to make the team next season for him to be beneficial to us. Do any of us see him as a lock for next season? I certainly don't. Should he be gifted that spot? I don't think so.
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03-02-2015, 02:06 PM
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#243
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by AC
@DarrenWHaynes
Colborne went 16th, traded 5 years later for a 4th rounder.
Baertschi went 13th, traded 4 years later for a 2nd rounder.
Value diminishes.
Baertschi was either going to make the team between now and October, or we'd lose him for nothing. We've also had a bunch of other winger prospects pass him, so the writing was on the wall.
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I don't get this example.
This was a bad trade for Toronto. As a rebuilding team, maybe Toronto should have given Colborne ice time?
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03-02-2015, 02:06 PM
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#244
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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Is it a 2015 2nd for sure? People are still saying 2017
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03-02-2015, 02:07 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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For the record, seems like Canucks fans are sour about giving up that 2nd round pick.
Maybe we're way higher on Sven than other fans around the league.
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03-02-2015, 02:07 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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03-02-2015, 02:07 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: 555 Saddledome Rise SE
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On one side I'm happy we traded him. We're never winning a cup with Gaudreau and Baertschi as our top 6 and other guys were starting to push past him. So happy to get something and let him go elsewhere.
On the other side I'd like more than a draft pick in freaking 2017. A 2015 2nd would be fine. That's a good chip.
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03-02-2015, 02:07 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Do we officially know the year of the 2nd yet?
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03-02-2015, 02:08 PM
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Closet Jedi
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Lolol.
So Sven couldn't crack the Flames lineup. That speaks for itself.
No other GM thought he was worth more than a 2nd.
What's the big deal?
Why are people crying that he went to Vancouver. BFD.
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03-02-2015, 02:08 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Calgary
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Kerr just stated that Sven asked to be moved.
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03-02-2015, 02:08 PM
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#251
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Calgary
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Kerr saying that Sven wanted out.
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Dude when it comes to the Canucks, it could be a team of Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, Augusto Pinochet, Josef Stalin and Kim Jong Il and if one of them scores against the Canucks you take it.
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03-02-2015, 02:08 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Do we officially know the year of the 2nd yet?
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@Fan960Steinberg
My understanding is it's a 2015 second round pick coming back from Vancouver for Baertschi. #Flames
Quote:
Originally Posted by jschick88
Kerr saying that Sven wanted out.
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Not surprising. The team and the player were parting ways one way or another, to get anything for him now as opposed to letting him walk or losing him on waivers... it's a no brainer.
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03-02-2015, 02:08 PM
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Could Care Less
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Treliving's hands were tied
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03-02-2015, 02:08 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Near Fish Creek
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Kerr saying on 960 Sven wanted out
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03-02-2015, 02:08 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Down by the sea, where the watermelons grow, back to my home, I dare not go...
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I'm happy for Baertschi. He was getting lost in the shuffle here and seemed directionless in the few games he played up here. Yes, he was on a short leash; there was no earned trust.
He'll start in Utica, where some of you might know that Travis Green is the head coach. He was also the head coach for Portland Winterhawks at one point while Baertschi was there. So, if anyone is going to set him straight, it'll be Green.
All in all, I'm fine with the trade. As some said, the writing was on the wall. Good trade for both teams.
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03-02-2015, 02:09 PM
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NOT a cool kid
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jschick88
Kerr saying that Sven wanted out.
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Well now he is dead to me. Canuck filth 
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03-02-2015, 02:09 PM
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#257
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jschick88
Kerr saying that Sven wanted out.
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In that case I wish Sean Baertschi nothing but bad luck
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03-02-2015, 02:09 PM
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First Line Centre
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That's right Vancouver.....keep "retooling"...
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03-02-2015, 02:09 PM
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#259
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Uncle Chester
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I'm ok with this. Baertchi was not progressing at the same rate as some of the other prospects. He tried to put on his best face for the media recently but I don't think he (or his father) is very enamoured with the Flames organization anymore.
New chapters all around. Good luck Sven. Go easy on us in the future.
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03-02-2015, 02:10 PM
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#260
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Franchise Player
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I'm fine if this is a 2015 Pick. Not so much if it's a 2017 Pick.
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