Marijuana Legalization and Regulation

[AcGold]

It'll often go by ailment as well. Stiff muscles, nausea, seizures all have different strains for medication.

[troutman]

Pot is boring. Give us psilocybin.

[Daradon]

Yeah, I don't smoke pot (literally twice a year if) so I really don't know about quality v price. But I have a real hard time believing price would spike.

Yes alcohol is expensive after taxes and all. But if it was TOO expensive people would be making their own en masse.

Yeah, I get everclear, but that's for drunks. It's not for people who drink. Making your owm beer is still mote expensive than picking up a case.

Gotta think weed would be the same (after some hiccups)

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by troutman

Pot is boring. Give us psilocybin.

in your morning green kale smoothie!

[Darkwater]

It's good to see the general mood change on cannabis. Moderation is almost always key in life, though a lil' marijuana never hurt anyone. Respect it though.

[CampbellsTransgressions]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Yeah, I don't smoke pot (literally twice a year if) so I really don't know about quality v price. But I have a real hard time believing price would spike.

Yes alcohol is expensive after taxes and all. But if it was TOO expensive people would be making their own en masse.

Yeah, I get everclear, but that's for drunks. It's not for people who drink. Making your owm beer is still mote expensive than picking up a case.

Gotta think weed would be the same (after some hiccups)

Everclear can be used to make spirits, which aren't necessarily for drunks, as well as proper absinthe by mixing it with wormwood.

Everclear can also be used as a delivery medium for weed by decarboxylating the weed and then mixing it with the everclear and heating. It does not get you drunk as the amount of alcohol required is very small but it sure is one hell of a way to get high. No need to smoke and with a much quicker onset than the standard brownies or cookies.

Originally Posted by Daradon

Well yeah, that's what I meant. You'd consistently get strong stuff. So whatever the price ends up evening out at, at least, on the average, you may get better value, cause you won't get crap weed anymore.

If you're getting crap weed in Calgary then you are doing something wrong.

Legalization would help in that you would better know the balance between CBD and THC and that's about it. Seeds are legal to buy in Canada, so we don't really have an issue of bad weed.

Personally, I stopped smoking back in January. I smoked on Saturday and didn't get much out of it. I don't know if it's just getting boring to me or if it's just that I'm way too busy right now to find sitting around getting high to be fun. It also slows me down, which is a massive turn off.

Unfortunately I can't drink nearly at the level I used to be able to as my body reacts rather unpleasantly, so I'll probably go back to smoking weed as a substitute. I don't mind that aspect of it, getting drunk is a bit treacherous anyway. You never wake up after a night of smoking feeling absolutely terrible, you just feel normal or have a minor euphoria.

[worth]

$2 a joint in Phnom Penh or $20 for 10g. Nothing to add except for that it should be legalised.

[Azure]

Colorado sold $700 million dollars worth of pot legally in 2014. Imagine creating a billion dollar industry almost overnight with a simple law change.

And then imagine being able to tax that billion dollar industry with a 10% sales tax. What are we waiting for?

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by Azure

Colorado sold $700 million dollars worth of pot legally in 2014. Imagine creating a billion dollar industry almost overnight with a simple law change.

And then imagine being able to tax that billion dollar industry with a 10% sales tax. What are we waiting for?

1) can anyone advise if there is a roadside test to examine if someone is higher than a kite and driving their car? That really concerns me

2) If we tax it, i'm more looking at a 100% tax or higher. if we're doing it to make money, then let's do it.

[CampbellsTransgressions]

1) If someone is going to drive high, they're already doing it anyway.

2) Why should it be taxed anymore than alcohol?
You also have to keep it at a lower price than is already available on the street.

[killer_carlson]

1) with a test for drunk drivers we can take away their license, put them in jail, or modify their vehicle so they have to blow as sober before driving. With MJ we do not have the test to even start that process. that is a problem for everyone, whether you are in favour/against/indifferent on the legalization argument.

2) Because it's currently illegal and those who wish to consume legally will be well up the willingness to spend curve. So do it. They will pay.

[CampbellsTransgressions]

There are many drugs (even prescription drugs) that people should not be taking before driving. Driving without or with a lack of sleep is also very dangerous. Alcohol is the one thing we can actively test for. Yes, it is an issue, but we certainly can't do a whole lot about it.

If you price it to high, people will just continue buying from their friends who buy from friends who buy from growers. Weed is not a rich mans drug, it's very cheap. You are not going to be successful at eliminating criminal distribution if you price it for the people that want to buy legally and have the money to pay extortionate amounts. As well, you also need to have stores that can set a competitive price so that they can actually turn a profit and exist.

[Street Pharmacist]

Benzodiazepines (ativan, xanax, Valium, etc) act just like alcohol with regards to reaction times. Despite counselling to not drive, I'd say many still do. Most methadone patients drive, in fact some do for a living (though as a maintenance drug one wouldn't expect a difference in reaction times I'd guess)

[Azure]

I think if you're going to make it legal, you need to do it in such a way that the growers that are growing it illegally now will grow it to sell legally. Therefore the price point needs to almost stay the same.

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by Azure

I think if you're going to make it legal, you need to do it in such a way that the growers that are growing it illegally now will grow it to sell legally. Therefore the price point needs to almost stay the same.

Is that really true though? One would think the fact you won't face jail time would be the incentive, not price point. I thought in Colorado the legal weed was significantly more expensive.

[killer_carlson]

and think of the tax penalties if you are growing without a licence?

Those that do go legit will be ratting out the illegal operations faster than you can imagine. That will affect supply chains quite quickly until much of the marketplace has moved to licensed operations.

Think about it. People could go and grow tobacco today to make their own cigarettes, but they dont.

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

and think of the tax penalties if you are growing without a licence?

Those that do go legit will be ratting out the illegal operations faster than you can imagine. That will affect supply chains quite quickly until much of the marketplace has moved to licensed operations.

Think about it. People could go and grow tobacco today to make their own cigarettes, but they dont.

Similarly, the market for illegally produced alcohol is a small fraction of the total market.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Dan02

Is that really true though? One would think the fact you won't face jail time would be the incentive, not price point. I thought in Colorado the legal weed was significantly more expensive.

True. But my point was more along the line of getting the illegal growers to be legal growers rather than convincing people to buy legal weed.

There is a huge black market for this stuff. Things would move much faster and the pot economy would grow much faster(not to mention crime rates dropping) if the illegal growers ALL obtained a legal growing license.

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by Azure

True. But my point was more along the line of getting the illegal growers to be legal growers rather than convincing people to buy legal weed.

There is a huge black market for this stuff. Things would move much faster and the pot economy would grow much faster(not to mention crime rates dropping) if the illegal growers ALL obtained a legal growing license.

Yeah until it becomes legal across all the states there still going to be a strong blackmarket even in the states where it is legal. The illegal market in other states is obviously going to bleed over for the time being.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I have never smoked or otherwise consumed marijuana, but I want it legal. All it does is waste resources to go after the people using it. Tax it, regulate it, profit from it.

As someone who can't even stand the smell of weed I find this amazing. at least try it if your going to talk about it ....man.!