Blue and black or white and gold dress????

[Hockey_Ninja]

Boy is this whole thing stupid. With that being said it's black and blue.

[Hack&Lube]

The sensitivity/fatigue theory works for me because I saw white & gold last night after a long day. This morning when I woke up and got into the office, it was blue and black for quite a long time. Now, after a few hours of monitor staring, it's switched back to white & gold.

[V]

You've been looking at that picture for a few hours? I get that this is interesting, but that's a little overboard.

[pylon]

I will throw a wrench into this. I am colour blind, and see pinkish purple, and burgundy. At least that's what my defective brain/eye combo perceives those colours to be.

[burn_this_city]

Was white/light blue and gold at first, but now its blue and dark gold.

[Acey]

Are the people that are saying it's black/blue taking into account the fact that it's a terrible low quality photo that is improperly white balanced? The dress might actually be black/blue, but not as it appears in the photograph.

These are the two colours in the photo. Pretty much the darkest of either that I could sample. You're telling me this is black and blue?

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Acey

Are the people that are saying it's black/blue taking into account the fact that it's a terrible low quality photo that is improperly white balanced? The dress might actually be black/blue, but not as it appears in the photograph.

These are the two colours in the photo. Pretty much the darkest of either that I could sample. You're telling me this is black and blue?

We all take that into account. The dress actually is blue and black. I only saw white and gold at first, but once I saw the dress in regular lighting everytime I look at the original picture I see black and blue. It's so strange.

[V]

Um, yeah. How is it not? I mean, the black is brownish, but put in context it can easily be considered black.

[_Q_]

^^ that's exactly it. When you take the colours out in isolation they're very clearly blue and gold.

I think whoever sees the gold as black is on the crack.

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by Acey

Are the people that are saying it's black/blue taking into account the fact that it's a terrible low quality photo that is improperly white balanced? The dress might actually be black/blue, but not as it appears in the photograph.

These are the two colours in the photo. Pretty much the darkest of either that I could sample. You're telling me this is black and blue?

Okay, now I'm convinced that we are seeing different pictures. If those are the darkest areas that you could find in the photo that you are seeing, then I can believe that possibly it's white and gold from your perspective (even though even in your sample, it's clearly blue and brown).



Here is me looking for the "darkest" spots on the dress in about 5 seconds of looking.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

The dress actually is blue and black.

Indeed, as per the other photos of it. But what I'm saying is... there is no black anywhere in the photo and this is proven by sampling the colours.

So my thought process on this is that to say the dress is black/blue, based on this photo, means you are either

a) subconsciously accounting for the fact that we know the actual dress is black/blue, or
b) subconsciously using what you know about how different types of lighting affect colours and correcting the white balance

...because, as per the photo, the darkest colour is a relatively moderate brown so you must be doing one of the two.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Regorium

Here is me looking for the "darkest" spots on the dress in about 5 seconds of looking.

I didn't account for those little fringes of darker colour because they don't appear in other photos of the dress in which it's entirely blue and black with no variation.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Acey

Indeed, as per the other photos of it. But what I'm saying is... there is no black anywhere in the photo and this is proven by sampling the colours.

So my thought process on this is that to say the dress is black/blue, based on this photo, means you are either

a) subconsciously accounting for the fact that we know the actual dress is black/blue, or
b) subconsciously using what you know about how different types of lighting affect colours and correcting the white balance

...because, as per the photo, the darkest colour is a relatively moderate brown so you must be doing one of the two.

For sure. Probably both. Interesting though for me considering when I didn't know what the fuss was about it was only white and gold. Impossible to be anything else. Then I read about the dress and saw other photos in different light, and then only could see black and blue. After looking at your colour sample, it looks light blue and brown. So bizarre

[Regorium]

These aren't fringes. There's a fold in the middle of the dress where the left side is darker and the right side is lighter due to the lighting.

This is just left of that fold, and is completely consistent along the entire dress.

It isn't even the darkest I can find. It's the darkest that I feel is reasonable for the discussion - as you said, if I just picked a random fringe, it's not legitimate at all.

[V]

Originally Posted by Acey

Indeed, as per the other photos of it. But what I'm saying is... there is no black anywhere in the photo and this is proven by sampling the colours.

So my thought process on this is that to say the dress is black/blue, based on this photo, means you are either

a) subconsciously accounting for the fact that we know the actual dress is black/blue, or
b) subconsciously using what you know about how different types of lighting affect colours and correcting the white balance

...because, as per the photo, the darkest colour is a relatively moderate brown so you must be doing one of the two.

Um, that's kind of the point of colour constancy. Our brains fill in the gaps.

What colour is the middle square in the front of the cube?

[FlamesFanStrandedInEDM]

One of my students showed me two pics of the dress side by side. One was White and Gold, one was black and blue....

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by V

Um, that's kind of the point of colour constancy. Our brains fill in the gaps.

What colour is the middle square in the front of the cube?

Yellow

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Yellow

Yeah, I'm seeing yellow with a slight orange tinge.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by V

Um, that's kind of the point of colour constancy. Our brains fill in the gaps.

Yes, I know what colour constancy is, lest I even contribute to this discussion. What's interesting is the apparently differing abilities of people to overcome it.

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

After looking at your colour sample, it looks light blue and brown. So bizarre

Regorium is right, his sample is more representative of the darkest shade, but my mine is maybe a better representation of the average "blue" hue that appears in the OP.

[V]

That would be incorrect, if you sampled the actual RGB of that square. It's the same colour as the centre brown square on the top.