[Trade] Glencross to Washington for a 2015 2nd and 2015 3rd round pick (WSH) (Archive)

[Muta]

If Tom Watson was our return is some sort of package, I'd be a happy camper.

Beagle and a 4th, however, no. Gross. I'd rather keep Glencross.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Haha. Just wait until Glencross is dealt to the Caps for Beagle and a 6th. Then it'll get really ugly.

As it should

[Muffins]

Originally Posted by Muta

If Tom Watson was our return is some sort of package, I'd be a happy camper.

Beagle and a 4th, however, no. Gross. I'd rather keep Glencross.

I know he's a pretty good golfer for his advanced age, but i'm not sure how good he would be at hockey.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Look up their career stats. Glencross has even had the better career. The only thing Brouwer has on Glencross right now is term on his contract.

Sarcasm: Are the caps trading for 2009 Glencross or 2015 Glencross?

Brouwer is a much more important piece to Washington than Glencross is/ever was to Calgary.

The only thing Brouwer has on glencross right now is being better at just about every facet of the game. More physical, faster, better goal scorer, better defensive player.

Brouwer is what we all wish Glencross was.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Sarcasm: Are the caps trading for 2009 Glencross or 2015 Glencross?

Brouwer is a much more important piece to Washington than Glencross is/ever was to Calgary.

The only thing Brouwer has on glencross right now is being better at just about every facet of the game. More physical, faster, better goal scorer, better defensive player.

Brouwer is what we all wish Glencross was.

How can you say Brouwer is a better goal scorer than Glencross? This is the first year where Glencross has struggled to score.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

How can you say Brouwer is a better goal scorer than Glencross? This is the first year where Glencross has struggled to score.

17 goals is greater than 8 goals.

It's slightly more than double.

I just looked it up: Glencross has 1 more career goal than brouwer. By the end of the season, Brouwer will be a better career goal scorer than Glencross.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

17 goals is greater than 8 goals.

It's slightly more than double.

I just looked it up: Glencross has 1 more career goal than brouwer. By the end of the season, Brouwer will be a better career goal scorer than Glencross.

And they are both .5 PPG career players. You are underrating Glencross if you think Brouwer is the better player.

[c.t.ner]

Originally Posted by Stud_McCool

What's the appetite for Tom Wilson? He's been in Trotz's doghouse for quite some time now.

Even though Wilson has been getting some tough love from Trotz, there's no way the Caps are going to give-up on him. The kid is a beast and has been the size and grit the Caps have been lacking for a few years. He's even spent a fair bit of time with Ovi and Backstrom so I don't see any reason for the Caps to trade him for Glencross. That would be wishful thinking on anyone's part.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

And they are both .5 PPG career players. You are underrating Glencross if you think Brouwer is the better player.

If it's so obvious you should be able to prove it, right?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

If it's so obvious you should be able to prove it, right?

I could say the same thing back at you. You're making it seem like you've watched every single Caps' game.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I could say the same thing back at you. You're making it seem like you've watched every single Caps' game.

Brouwer:

Scores twice as many goals
Plays more games
Plays more minutes in those games
Takes more draws
Is a better defensive player
Is Bigger and more physical
Is younger
Is under contract for next year


Your turn.

[GioforPM]

Brouwer and Glencross are roughly equal in points (20 point advantage for Curtis) and almost identical in goals. But Brouwer has done it in two less years, plus he's a RH RW, so I can see why the Flames would want him.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Maybe its a bigger deal involving Mike Green and other parts.

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Maybe its a bigger deal involving Mike Green and other parts.

they said they wouldn't move mike green, but who knows what that's worth
personally i would love it.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by handgroen

they said they wouldn't move mike green, but who knows what that's worth
personally i would love it.

To be clear, they said they wouldn't trade Mike Green for a rental or prospect.

They would trade him in a hockey deal.

“The GM of the Washington Capitals, Brian MacLellan, saying today that ‘He will not trade Mike Green for a rental or a prospect. It’s a big deal or nothing,’” said Friedman. “He says ‘He doesn’t see anything materializing.’ So, you can expect that Mike Green will stay with the Capitals and they will take a run with him.”

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Brouwer:

Scores twice as many goals
Plays more games
Plays more minutes in those games
Takes more draws
Is a better defensive player
Is Bigger and more physical
Is younger
Is under contract for next year


Your turn.

How many Caps' games have you watched? Probably as much as I have.

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Brouwer:

Scores twice as many goals
Plays more games
Plays more minutes in those games
Takes more draws
Is a better defensive player
Is Bigger and more physical
Is younger
Is under contract for next year


Your turn.

While I dont necessarily disagree that Brouwer is the better player right now, Glencross has more career goals and points in less career games, so trying to pass it off like you are that Brouwer is by far and away the more effective player is cherry picking this years stats.

They really do have suprisingly similar career stats across the board from GP, G, A, P and even PIM.

Brouwer is 13 lbs heavier and 3 years younger.

Overall, they are very similar level players.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Brouwer:

Scores twice as many goals
Plays more games
Plays more minutes in those games
Takes more draws
Is a better defensive player
Is Bigger and more physical
Is younger
Is under contract for next year


Your turn.

Let's look at PPG, starting at 08-09 where both players established themselves as NHLers:

08-09: Brouwer - .38, Glencross - .54
09-10: Brouwer - .51 , Glencross - .49
10-11: Brouwer - .46, Glencross - .54
11-12: Brouwer - .40, Glencross - .72
12-13: Brouwer - .70, Glencross - .65
13-14: Brouwer - .52, Glencross - .63
14-15: Brouwer - .49, Glencross - .53

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Let's look at PPG, starting at 08-09 where both players established themselves as NHLers:

08-09: Brouwer - .38, Glencross - .54
09-10: Brouwer - .51 , Glencross - .49
10-11: Brouwer - .46, Glencross - .54
11-12: Brouwer - .40, Glencross - .72
12-13: Brouwer - .70, Glencross - .65
13-14: Brouwer - .52, Glencross - .63
14-15: Brouwer - .49, Glencross - .53

You're acquiring him for what he is now, for the remainder of the season and only that. Nothing before this season really matters, only what he is now.

[dammage79]

I think what Flash is getting at is that teams and fans are more about "what have you done for me lately" and in that regard, Brouwer has done more than Glencross.

Which come deadline day and the talks leading up to it, is what Gm's would be focusing on . Deadline day is about helping right now trades.