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Old 07-21-2006, 12:41 AM   #541
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Actually, I don't feel like sharing ANY personal information on a public board. Feel free to PM me.

Maybe you should come clean just exactly where they come from....which is exactly why I was asking.
How familiar are you with the region? It should be self-explanatory when you know that Lebanon is Syria's neighbour who is Jordan's neighbour... Come clean? WHat am i hiding weapons of mass destruction now ?
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:41 AM   #542
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The terrorists with the F16s and Apache planes dont signify much in the face of Hizbollah right?
Come back when you can refer to Israel as NOT being a terrorist nation.

About your friends, here you clearly infer that they came from Lebanon.

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Old 07-21-2006, 12:42 AM   #543
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Actually, I don't feel like sharing ANY personal information on a public board. Feel free to PM me.

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What do you have to hide
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:44 AM   #544
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Come back when you can refer to Israel as NOT being a terrorist nation.

About your friends, here you clearly infer that they came from Lebanon.
You're dense. They fled Lebanon by car to Syria, drove to Jordan and flew out from there. What difference does that make in your life?
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:45 AM   #545
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How familiar are you with the region? It should be self-explanatory when you know that Lebanon is Syria's neighbour who is Jordan's neighbour... Come clean? WHat am i hiding weapons of mass destruction now ?
What the hell are you talking about?

You wanted to know if my background had anything to do with the ME, and I told you to PM me if you wanted more information. I know the region is screwed up, mainly because Israel is sorrounded by two groups, HAMAS and Hezbollah, who both have one intention, annex and destroy Israel.

You have already stated your hatred for Israel, plus your support for Hezbollah, so all this doesn't suprise me.
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:45 AM   #546
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Come back when you can refer to Israel as NOT being a terrorist nation.

About your friends, here you clearly infer that they came from Lebanon.
Israel, being the stronger nation, are entirely responsible for not envoking a more peaceful rationale to the crisis in the middle east. Hence they must be labelled as terrorists. Not only you ane CNN get to choose who the terrorists are...
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:46 AM   #547
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What do you have to hide
Its a freakin' public board. For God sakes, PM me if you really want to know.

I don't share personal information on a public board.
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:48 AM   #548
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What the hell are you talking about?

You wanted to know if my background had anything to do with the ME, and I told you to PM me if you wanted more information. I know the region is screwed up, mainly because Israel is sorrounded by two groups, HAMAS and Hezbollah, who both have one intention, annex and destroy Israel.

You have already stated your hatred for Israel, plus your support for Hezbollah, so all this doesn't suprise me.
Why do you put words in my mouth rather than coming up with intact arguments or rebuttals.

I dont support war. Can you repeat after me. If Israel didn't want war, they could've easily avoided it. They are the ones to blame and that's the end of it.
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You're dense. They fled Lebanon by car to Syria, drove to Jordan and flew out from there. What difference does that make in your life?
Fair enough.

I wanted an explanation, something wrong with that?
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:49 AM   #550
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Fair enough.

I wanted an explanation, something wrong with that?
They had an interview with them on CTV. You should check it out.
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:57 AM   #551
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Why do you put words in my mouth rather than coming up with intact arguments or rebuttals.

I dont support war. Can you repeat after me. If Israel didn't want war, they could've easily avoided it. They are the ones to blame and that's the end of it.
The end of it? So Hezbollah is totally innocent?

your hatred for Israel...

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Old 07-21-2006, 12:58 AM   #552
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Israel, being the stronger nation, are entirely responsible for not envoking a more peaceful rationale to the crisis in the middle east. Hence they must be labelled as terrorists. Not only you ane CNN get to choose who the terrorists are...
Your kidding here right, Israel is the stronger nation. Israel has been attacked with rockets and had thier own citizens kidnapped from within thier own borders. Hezbollah had the option of returning these hostages and ceasing thier attacks on Israel's civilians, and instead choose to egg Israel on, and threaten them with further and larger attacks. They can't negotiate with Hezbollah, and Hamas, because both groups have proven to be untrustworthy.

Israel is the only one out of the involved parties (Hezbollah, Hamas and Palestine, and Lebanon), that has actually tried to participate in the peace process with the intent of actually stabilizing the region and attaining security for themselves. All they've gotten in return is lies, and attacks. So again please tell me how Israel is completely responsible.
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:00 AM   #553
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They had an interview with them on CTV. You should check it out.
Well I searched Google and couldn't find anything, so CTV must not have posted a link anywhere.

I guess I missed it then.
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:03 AM   #554
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Israel, being the stronger nation, are entirely responsible for not envoking a more peaceful rationale to the crisis in the middle east. Hence they must be labelled as terrorists. Not only you ane CNN get to choose who the terrorists are...
Israel has made MANY and I mean MANY attempts at peace and every time they give something...........you know what they get back..............thats right a rocket right up their ass.
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Israel has made MANY and I mean MANY attempts at peace and every time they give something...........you know what they get back..............thats right a rocket right up their ass.
I didnt mean for it to sound like that.
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Israel, being the stronger nation, are entirely responsible for not envoking a more peaceful rationale to the crisis in the middle east. Hence they must be labelled as terrorists. Not only you ane CNN get to choose who the terrorists are...
What does being a "stronger" nation have to do with who is at fault?

Basically, you're telling me the US is at fault for WW2, as they were the "stronger" nation. Right?
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:04 AM   #557
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I didnt mean for it to sound like that.
Well don't change it.

You're right on the money.
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:06 AM   #558
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They can't negotiate with Hezbollah, and Hamas, because both groups have proven to be untrustworthy.

Israel is the only one out of the involved parties (Hezbollah, Hamas and Palestine, and Lebanon), that has actually tried to participate in the peace process with the intent of actually stabilizing the region and attaining security for themselves. All they've gotten in return is lies, and attacks. So again please tell me how Israel is completely responsible.
Israel has shown itself to be untrustworthy at times as well, with their policy of giving with one hand while taking with the other.

We often see them giving concessions at high profile peace meetings, such as removal of settlements on Arab land, only to turn around when the media spotlight is gone and establish more settlements elsewhere, or continue water diversion projects from the West Bank into Israel proper.
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:07 AM   #559
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History lesson for everyone, well sort of.

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4&sect...=29&m=7&y=2005

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BEIRUT, 29 July 2005 — Lebanon’s new government defended the right of Hezbollah guerrillas to resist Israel and pledged solid ties with Syria yesterday...

Siniora said
the government would defend Lebanon’s right to resistance, a term usually used for pro-Syrian Hizbollah, which helped end Israel’s 22-year occupation of the south in 2000.

The government considers the resistance a natural and honest expression of the Lebanese people’s national rights to liberate their land and defend their honor against Israeli aggression and threats,” he told Parliament.
Fast forward almost a year.....

http://english.people.com.cn/200607/...13_282599.html

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The Lebanese government said on Wednesday that it was not responsible for Hezbollah's captureof two Israeli soldiers and demanded an urgent meeting of the UN Security Council on Israel's retaliation.
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"The Lebanese government was not informed and does not take responsibility for what happened on the international border," Lebanese Information Minister Ghazi Aridi said after an urgent cabinet meeting.
Hyprocritical?
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:15 AM   #560
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And the one time all 3 makor celestial religions coexisted was when it was the mandate of Palestine in control, when every religion was respected and both Christians and Jews were allowed to practice their own belefs without question from the controlling govt. Im too lazy to search right now but I can assure u its up on wikipedia or somewhere...
HUH? Is this the "JOOS are monkey and pigs" version of history? A quick perusal of MEMRI anyone can see this load of bunk being driven into the heads of children among other truely disgusting and repugnant things. I suggest you stop being so lazy and picking up a BOOK and actually learn your history.

From the Roman Empire, Benzintine Wmpire, Kingdom of Jeruselem, varius Caliphates, Ottoman Empire and then the British Empire (who pretty much drew the borders we see today) Palestine never existed as a country. There was no Palestine control of jack. In 1948 Jordan controlled the West Bank and Egypt controlled Gaza. The British Empire gave up control and the UN set up a nation where the Jews and Palestine Arabs would co-exist. Instead of building a country with the Jews the Arabs went to war. The Jews won an Israel was born.

Now I am sure I have missed a few bullet points but the fact is Palestine never existed. As for the lovey dovey we all sat down and sang cum ba ya together under Arab control. Jews were forbidden to visit their holiest place until they liberated it.
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