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Old 02-21-2015, 01:41 PM   #941
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Flames blogger on Hockeybuzz thinks Glencross will be traded to the Bruins for Eriksson in a cap dump/change of scenery move.
Interesting move. Eriksson is a solid player. Not sure if he would be here long term or not but he is still signed for next year. I definitely think it's a lot easier to retain players after they have played a full season for a team. If he pans out you can try to re-sign him and if he doesn't you can flip him at the deadline. I'd expect his return to be a lot better than Glencross though which is why it seems a bit weird the Bruins would make this deal.
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Flames blogger on Hockeybuzz thinks Glencross will be traded to the Bruins for Eriksson in a cap dump/change of scenery move.
Did he steal it from CPs Trade Rumors/Speculation thread?

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Would either help the Flames? I know Seidenberg is solid but is on the wrong side of the age grouping the Flames would be targeting. And would Eriksson be a suitable replacement for Glencross? I.E send Glencross to BOS for Eriksson.
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Was just going to post the same idea. Eriksson for Glencross makes sense. Bruins aren't tied to a contract into next year. Eriksson only has one more year left on his contract. Hasn't really worked out well for Loui in Boston. Maybe a change of scenery gets Loui going again.
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I'd rather try to get Seidenberg out of Boston
Glenx++ for Seidenberg
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^ Hawks don't need more prospects IMO. They have a logjam of them trying to make the NHL roster. If anything they would want picks from the Flames more than prospects, buys them more time before waivers become an issue.
Might be a good fit here for both teams given the situation. Help Chicago out so they don't have to waive anyone in the future and acquire a guy who could help them in the playoffs. Flames get a player in the age group they'd be targeting.
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Might be a good fit here for both teams given the situation. Help Chicago out so they don't have to waive anyone in the future and acquire a guy who could help them in the playoffs. Flames get a player in the age group they'd be targeting.
Yep.. nothing like getting traded to an organization that's a serious cup contender where you'll get 1st/2nd line playing minutes to get the old competitive juices flowing and start scoring again.
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I'd rather try to get Seidenberg out of Boston
Glenx++ for Seidenberg
He is too old IMO. I assume the ++ is prospects or picks and not something the Flames should move for a mid 30's Dman with injury history.
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Would depend on if Seidenberg would waive first and foremost.

I do think Boston would move the pair of Eriksson and Seidenberg without massive ++. Their cap situation would soften their stance a fair bit.

From CGY's end, it definitely solidifies their top 6 on D and replaces Glencross while properly utilizing the cap space they have.

I guess we will see what shakes off of the tree in the next week.
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Trading for Eriksson and Seidenberg would be a terrible move given we are in year two of the rebuild. Minimum we would have to trade at least a 1st round pick plus more... and it's not like Seidenberg or Eriksson will actually help this team win anything before their time in the league is up. So why give up part of the future for them? I'd be surprised if Treliving trades for anyone who is 30+. Unless they are a cheap role player it just doesn't make sense.
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Would depend on if Seidenberg would waive first and foremost.

I do think Boston would move the pair of Eriksson and Seidenberg without massive ++. Their cap situation would soften their stance a fair bit.

From CGY's end, it definitely solidifies their top 6 on D and replaces Glencross while properly utilizing the cap space they have.

I guess we will see what shakes off of the tree in the next week.
FWIW, he has already said he would waive if Boston asked him too.
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Don't really see how we aquire those guys out of Boston without mortgaging our future. Just doesn't seem like a fit.
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Trading for Eriksson and Seidenberg would be a terrible move given we are in year two of the rebuild. Minimum we would have to trade at least a 1st round pick plus more... and it's not like Seidenberg or Eriksson will actually help this team win anything before their time in the league is up. So why give up part of the future for them? I'd be surprised if Treliving trades for anyone who is 30+. Unless they are a cheap role player it just doesn't make sense.
Even then. The whole reason they're willing to part with Glencross is because hes a cheap role player who is being outplayed by people 10 years younger and even cheaper than him.
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3rd round pick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
not having your GM as a known as a deadline pushover >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd round pick
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not having your GM as a known as a deadline pushover >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd round pick
Also, having one of your better players around for the stretch drive is worth something. Likely more than a 3rd.
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Don't really see how we aquire those guys out of Boston without mortgaging our future. Just doesn't seem like a fit.
I doubt you'd have to mortgage the future to acquire Eriksson. He's a UFA after next season and hasn't really played that well in Boston. Doesn't seem to fit well in that system. Plus Bruins are could use the salary space. Would be more of a change of scenery type deal.

Seidenberg would cost a bit more IMO. I'm not sure why the Bruins would be looking to deal him without getting another dman in return. With the loss of Miller, and McQuaid being a FA next season, it doesn't make sense for them. Maybe in the off-season but not now.
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Also, having one of your better players around for the stretch drive is worth something. Likely more than a 3rd.
Re... the bolded part....On this we should agree to disagree.


I don't think Glencross will be missed one iota.
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Eriksson might not have worked out like they would have hoped but their still not going to just give him away. As much as I'd like to land him for a deal centering around Glencross I just don't see it. If Treliving can make it happen then good work by him.
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Loui Eriksson? Hell yes I would take him for Glenny.

Might have to add on our end though given Glencross' scoring slump and injuries of late..we're not exactly selling high right now.
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Re... the bolded part....On this we should agree to disagree.


I don't think Glencross will be missed one iota.
He might, he has experience. Hes being outplayed by some kids right now, but right now isnt the hard part, the hard part is the last 10 or so games and potentially the playoffs themselves.

Its when the going gets tough that experience really counts, but right now, while management wants to make the playoffs it isnt a critical failure if they dont.
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I doubt you'd have to mortgage the future to acquire Eriksson. He's a UFA after next season and hasn't really played that well in Boston. Doesn't seem to fit well in that system. Plus Bruins are could use the salary space. Would be more of a change of scenery type deal.

Seidenberg would cost a bit more IMO. I'm not sure why the Bruins would be looking to deal him without getting another dman in return. With the loss of Miller, and McQuaid being a FA next season, it doesn't make sense for them. Maybe in the off-season but not now.
Glencross for Eriksson straight up seems like a deal the Bruins would jump on. Salary cap freedom, the player fits their system better, and adds more physical presence to the team

Eriksson, on the flipside, had been a really good bordering on great player for Dallas for years before the move to Boston. His skillset and style seem more suited to the Flames, and having another skilled top-6 forward in the fold, on a one year deal, seems like a great idea. If Loui Eriksson is next year's Setoguchi (role-wise, not results wise), then we're in a GREAT spot. He's a better temporary fix another Raymond-type signing, and never mind that if we struggle and he has a great individual year, he'll still have value at the next deadline.

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and the Flames would get even softer
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