[Trade] Glencross to Washington for a 2015 2nd and 2015 3rd round pick (WSH) (Archive)

[AC]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

... and then there's Engelland... Still can't believe so many people here were excited about his signing.

I don't recall anybody being excited about the signing. In fact, I'd say the VAST majority were appalled at the price and had him pegged as the 5th defenceman at best but probably the 6th.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by AC

I don't recall anybody being excited about the signing. ...

You'd be surprised

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

You'd be surprised

Yeah read past the point where the full contract details were known and insert the Will Ferrell-Anchorman meme.

[AC]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

You'd be surprised

After the pricetag was announced I don't see anybody being excited about it other than the odd poster mentioning it'll be nice to have a veteran capable of protecting our rookies.

Again, the VAST majority seem to be pissed off about it.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Yeah read past the point where the full contract details were known and insert the Will Ferrell-Anchorman meme.

I know. Most people were turned off by the price. But that was to suggest that he was OK at some other price, which he wasn't and isn't. He is much worse than Butler, as it turned out. Anyway, that was just an off-topic comment.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

An interesting tidbit I just happened across...

Sportsnet ‏@Sportsnet 6m6 minutes ago
Dennis Seidenberg is reportedly willing to waive his no trade clause if a deal comes along. http://bit.ly/1vkxkoh

I imagine the Flames would have to +++ but Yes Please. (Total 100% speculation on my part.)

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan

An interesting tidbit I just happened across...

Sportsnet ‏@Sportsnet 6m6 minutes ago
Dennis Seidenberg is reportedly willing to waive his no trade clause if a deal comes along. http://bit.ly/1vkxkoh

I imagine the Flames would have to +++ but Yes Please. (Total 100% speculation on my part.)

don't they need a defender themselves? Miller is on IR again, which is a nightmare for them.

[savardandjokinen]

I'm happy that I am probably going to his last home game because I'm happy for what he's done but I want a new chapter with younger guys, if he's leaving, thank you Curtis!

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by devo22

don't they need a defender themselves? Miller is on IR again, which is a nightmare for them.

Just passing along what I saw on twitter, and then extrapolated a correlation out of unicorn piss and kitten dreams.

[greentree]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Or that if the Flames are asking him for a list teams he would go to, then make a move rather than pulling a Cammalleri.

Pulling a squid.
That works, somehow.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan

An interesting tidbit I just happened across...



I imagine the Flames would have to +++ but Yes Please. (Total 100% speculation on my part.)

No to any plus. Don't think the flames should be in the market for a guy who would be their oldest defender and oldest player

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

Had to look up Glencross online...had never heard of him. What exactly makes him any better than a Mike Santorelli? Doesn't seem special to me and how does he have a NTC?

How do you have an accou there for 3 years and not know who Glencross is?

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I can still see a scenario where he doesn't get traded, ala Cammi last year.

Hopefully that situation last year set the table for some reasonable offers from teams that could use the help.

Let's face it, that whole reasoning was just Burke lawyering his way out of a bad situation with some clever post-rationalization. Everyone was waiting for Kessler to be traded to get things moving that day, and Burke ran out of time because he waited too long. He wasn't some grand protector of Flames virtue...he was simply a guy who gambled and lost. It happens sometimes, but I'd appreciate if they just owned up to it. He hit a home run with Bera, and totally blew it with Cammalleri.

There's nothing that says that because you traded a guy for a certain price in one situation, you absolutely must adhere to the same standards the next time. If you don't like what a team offers you, all you have to do is say no and move on.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Let's face it, that whole reasoning was just Burke lawyering his way out of a bad situation with some clever post-rationalization. Everyone was waiting for Kessler to be traded to get things moving that day, and Burke ran out of time because he waited too long. He wasn't some grand protector of Flames virtue...he was simply a guy who gambled and lost. It happens sometimes, but I'd appreciate if they just owned up to it. He hit a home run with Bera, and totally blew it with Cammalleri.

There's nothing that says that because you traded a guy for a certain price in one situation, you absolutely must adhere to the same standards the next time. If you don't like what a team offers you, all you have to do is say no and move on.

Burke admitted that he lowered the price on Cammy but there wasn't enough time.

People forget that the flames really wanted to retain Cammy last year. Burkes gamble was he thought he could sign Cammy and opted not to take the 4th round pick that so many posters get bent out of shape that he didn't take.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Burke admitted that he lowered the price on Cammy but there wasn't enough time.

People forget that the flames really wanted to retain Cammy last year. Burkes gamble was he thought he could sign Cammy and opted not to take the 4th round pick that so many posters get bent out of shape that he didn't take.

Burke got a 3rd for Stempniak. I doubt teams would be prepared to give up more for Stempniak than for Cammy.

[sureLoss]

So with the report that the Ducks were originally the only team that was on the list, what happened there? Ducks not interested in Glencross or were they low balling the Flames?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

So with the report that the Ducks were originally the only team that was on the list, what happened there? Ducks not interested in Glencross or were they low balling the Flames?

Flames may be hesitant to pull the trigger on a trade to a division rival? Might have been a pick coming back? Double negative as the Flames would upgrade ANA while the Flames stay the same?

Maybe Treliving has been seeking more of a hockey deal with other parts and no one is chomping at that bit like he said today.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

So with the report that the Ducks were originally the only team that was on the list, what happened there? Ducks not interested in Glencross or were they low balling the Flames?

Combination of Ducks giving an early low offer and Calgary being less than inclined towards giving him to a team they may face in the 1st round (and I think play again down the stretch) for less than a their asking price.

Now that Friedman is reporting Glencross is open to destinations besides Anaheim, you have to think that behoves Anaheim to increase their offer.

Another thing probably holding things up is that Anaheim is looking to unload a couple of players as well. Calgary probably isn't interested in a UFA for UFA deal and is probably looking at one of their close prospects.

Anaheim may have to do a deal first before they can accommodate Glencross. Bob Murray has mentioned Glencross before with admiration, so I think there is probably some serious desire from their side. I think Anaheim is where he eventually ends up.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Flames may be hesitant to pull the trigger on a trade to a division rival? Might have been a pick coming back? Double negative as the Flames would upgrade ANA while the Flames stay the same?

Maybe Treliving has been seeking more of a hockey deal with other parts and no one is chomping at that bit like he said today.

Perhaps, but none of that is really Glencross' concern from his perspective. He was at one point set on only going to the Ducks.

IMO only reason to expand his list is that a) Anaheim doesn't really want him b) Flames asked him to so they could try and create a bidding war in an attempt to increase Anaheim's offer

I suppose you could make a case that Treliving told him to expand his list or he would finish the season as a Flame, but who would want a malcontent on the team.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

Had to look up Glencross online...had never heard of him. What exactly makes him any better than a Mike Santorelli? Doesn't seem special to me and how does he have a NTC?

What a poor, pathetic, trolling attempt.