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Enoch Root · 02-19-2015, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

It has been reported that the Leafs are asking for a 2nd and 3rd or 2nd and prospect for Winnik.

Winnik is probably the closest comparable to Glencross on the UFA market.

I found this interesting because I was thinking that a fair return might be something like two 2nds. - basically equal value to a late 1st, without the bad optics of trading away a 1st.

If Winnik is worth a 2nd and a 3rd (I understand that is only an asking price, not a trade) then Glencross is worth 2 2nds or a 2nd and a decent prospect.

IntenseFan · 02-19-2015, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

"Hasn't necessarily asked for a trade" was the quote by the way. Didn't flat out deny it like that IMO.

These GMs get more like Canadian federal politicians with each passing year.

AC · 02-19-2015, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

"Hasn't necessarily asked for a trade" was the quote by the way. Didn't flat out deny it like that IMO.

AKA Glenny probably said something about how he wouldn't mind moving to a Cup contender if the possibility was out there.

Fighting Banana Slug · 02-19-2015, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

McCarron
Scherbak
Tinordi
Beaulieu

Perhaps all 4 Montreal are unwilling to part with.

Any one on that list would be a steep price, but you never know. Mtl has a chance this year, the way Price is playing. I personally don't think they are that good, but they might be all in this year.

sureLoss · 02-19-2015, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

"Hasn't necessarily asked for a trade" was the quote by the way. Didn't flat out deny it like that IMO.

Which likely means that they discussed Glencross' future with the team and he said he wouldn't mind being traded.

dammage79 · 02-19-2015, 04:20 PM

Carey Price in that kind of mode right now like Roy was where he could steal a cup for you. I can see MTL adding a vet or two at the expense of a prospect to help Price out.

sureLoss · 02-19-2015, 04:26 PM

Rob Kerr says they (assuming he means Sportsnet960 staff via sources) think that tomorrow will be Glencross' last game as a Flame.

dammage79 · 02-19-2015, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

Rob Kerr says they (assuming he means Sportsnet960 staff) think that tomorrow will be Glencross' last game as a Flame.

Didn't he say last Home game?

Heavy Jack · 02-19-2015, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

Rob Kerr says they (assuming he means Sportsnet960 staff) think that tomorrow will be Glencross' last game as a Flame.

Kind of weird when you think about it. He's been a steal in a lot of ways for this franchise and had some productive years playing alongside Iggy, but its best for him to move on and open up space for a younger core.

Cheerio · 02-19-2015, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

Rob Kerr says they (assuming he means Sportsnet960 staff via sources) think that tomorrow will be Glencross' last game as a Flame.

Last game or last home game?

Otto-matic · 02-19-2015, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

Rob Kerr says they (assuming he means Sportsnet960 staff via sources) think that tomorrow will be Glencross' last game as a Flame.

Fitting it will be western night.

dino7c · 02-19-2015, 04:30 PM

if you are about to trade Glencross and everybody knows it why play him in an important game?

sureLoss · 02-19-2015, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

Didn't he say last Home game?

oh did he? sorry if he did

FBI · 02-19-2015, 04:31 PM

Hat trick for glencross tomorrow?

dustygoon · 02-19-2015, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

oh did he? sorry if he did

Your algorithm is all messed up.

Fighting Banana Slug · 02-19-2015, 04:35 PM

Last home game seems like a safe bet.

Buck Murdock · 02-19-2015, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

"Hasn't necessarily asked for a trade" was the quote by the way. Didn't flat out deny it like that IMO.

Exactly. he didnt ask, he demanded.

ForeverFlameFan · 02-19-2015, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck Murdock

Exactly. he didnt ask, he demanded.

I don't think he demanded a trade. If we said we weren't trading him, I think he'd be fine with that too.

Mattman · 02-19-2015, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

I can't see him waiving for the Islanders, but they have a number of D prospects that might work (they don't have much in the way of draft picks).

I could see him wanting to go to the East though.
(I didn't go full green text because this is an idea but a ridiculous one)

Glencross (2015 UFA)
Wideman 50% retained (2017 UFA)
Baertschi
Rienhart

Boychuck (2015 UFA)
Pulock
Grabner (2016 UFA)

Probably seems one sided towards the Flames but let's look at the facts boys.

New York has just over 6 mil in cap space, and they have a promising lot of RFA's that are looking for contracts this summer. So upgrading on Grabner and Boychuck while getting lower contracts helps them.

Grabner is coming off an injury and is being shifted between the NYI 2nd and 3rd line. Not so hot with only 8 points so far. If Glencross is playing our 3rd anyways, so Grabner's a replacement. Or we could even flip him too.

Boychuck isn't doing bad on the Ilanders but Wideman is a better RH upgrade and retaining even 40% of his contract is less than Boychucks.

Pulock would be the main part of the deal as he's a 21 year old RH defenseman. Who wouldn't want him?

Baertschi and Reinhart are tossed in as too "tip the scales"

(It's an idea!!!)

ForeverFlameFan · 02-19-2015, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattman

I could see him wanting to go to the East though.
(I didn't go full green text because this is an idea but a ridiculous one)

Glencross (2015 UFA)
Wideman 50% retained (2017 UFA)
Baertschi
Rienhart

Boychuck (2015 UFA)
Pulock
Grabner (2016 UFA)

Probably seems one sided towards the Flames but let's look at the facts boys.

New York has just over 6 mil in cap space, and they have a promising lot of RFA's that are looking for contracts this summer. So upgrading on Grabner and Boychuck while getting lower contracts helps them.

Grabner is coming off an injury and is being shifted between the NYI 2nd and 3rd line. Not so hot with only 8 points so far. If Glencross is playing our 3rd anyways, so Grabner's a replacement. Or we could even flip him too.

Boychuck isn't doing bad on the Ilanders but Wideman is a better RH upgrade and retaining even 40% of his contract is less than Boychucks.

Pulock would be the main part of the deal as he's a 21 year old RH defenseman. Who wouldn't want him?

Baertschi and Reinhart are tossed in as too "tip the scales"

(It's an idea!!!)

You'd have to change Pulock to Mayfield.