[Trade] Glencross to Washington for a 2015 2nd and 2015 3rd round pick (WSH) (Archive)

[polak]

Yeah we're not going to get anything substantial for him UNLESS he's packaged with someone else... Sven?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

I would be shocked if you could even get a third round pick for him...certainly not a decent prospect...

If I had to guess, we will get a minor leaguer with potential or a mid-late pick with some future considerations attached based on performance, team success or if he re-signs before July 1st.

It's possible that it ends up being part of a larger deal though.

I'm not expecting anything of consequence for Glencross straight up though.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Wow - 15 teams! He does still seem like a very attractive piece to acquire. I wonder how big his list is - I am guessing it would be 4 based on what Iginla's list was.

This time around I bet the Flames get him to sign off on his agreed teams right away, rather than coming back to him with who was interested!

[devo22]

Great to see that they are trying to maximize assets despite still being in the playoff picture. A 2nd round pick would be great, but even a 3rd is better than losing him for nothing this summer.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I'm not expecting anything of consequence for Glencross straight up though.

I think some of you are underestimating his value on the market.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Exactly. Its quite a statement by him, all things considered. He's been used on every line this year (maybe not the 4th?) but had plenty of opportunity up top with Monahan & Jones.

It's also not the first time Glencross has been publicly unahppy about his icetime.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

I would be shocked if you could even get a third round pick for him...certainly not a decent prospect...

Yes, because 15 teams asking about his availability, knowing full well he has a NTC, is indicative of a player probably going to get a poor return.

[Locke]

I wish him nothing but the best going forward, I always liked him but it seems fairly evident that the writing was on the wall on this one.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

He has no incentive to sign such a thing.

According to Peter Chiarelli back when he was pissed at Feaster, it is normal for a team to get something officially signed.

The incentive would be that he wouldn't be traded otherwise and could end up being brushed aside or put on waivers for any team to pick up.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

It's also not the first time Glencross has been publicly unahppy about his icetime.

I imagine this being a contract year he was hoping for more of a chance to pad his stats.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by New Era

Yes, because 15 teams asking about his availability, knowing full well he has a NTC, is indicative of a player probably going to get a poor return.

It could just mean that a lot of those teams are expecting to get him for a lowball offer.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I would say most fans want him traded...whether or not they like the return is another story. Seems like a no brainer to get a list but considering the last guy who was in charge didn't bother its a good thing

"most fans" wanted the Flames to do a rebuild in 2009 but it took them four more years to limp along with the fear that they would see a drop in season ticket sales if they moved down the standings.

This is a good sign, trust me!

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by New Era

Yes, because 15 teams asking about his availability, knowing full well he has a NTC, is indicative of a player probably going to get a poor return.

Realistically I don't think the Flames would even consider trading Glencross if the return is only a 3rd round pick as I would think that ownership puts a premium on the playoff revenue over a 3rd round pick and keeping Glencross helps the Flames down the stretch.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I would say most fans want him traded...whether or not they like the return is another story. Seems like a no brainer to get a list but considering the last guy who was in charge didn't bother its a good thing

Feaster got a list from Iggy. It was Iggy who didn't accept a trade to one of those teams after providing said list.

Lots of talk about how they should have had him sign something agreeing to be traded to anyone on the list he provided. Not sure if that's even allowed under whatever his NTC stated, but it kind of negates the need for the list anyways.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

According to Peter Chiarelli back when he was pissed at Feaster, it is normal for a team to get something officially signed.

The incentive would be that he wouldn't be traded otherwise and could end up being brushed aside or put on waivers for any team to pick up.

Doesn't the NMC preclude him from waivers without his consent?

If I'm Glencross' agent (like Iginla's) I tell Treliving "here's the list, but my client will hold off on officially signing off on any deal until he sees his actual options". Treliving has next to no leverage.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Here's the thing, 15 teams are interested in him and it's been reported that Glencross' list is significantly less. Being that he's like most likely a rational thinking human being, his list certainly contains Cup contending teams, which have also (reportedly) shown an interest in him. So this is very good for Treliving.

I think some of you underestimate his value a bit. We've seen it time and time again, Cup contenders willing to part with their Swiss bank account in order to add a piece to put them over the top.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Realistically I don't think the Flames would even consider trading Glencross if the return is only a 3rd round pick as I would think that ownership puts a premium on the playoff revenue over a 3rd round pick and keeping Glencross helps the Flames down the stretch.

I dont know. I guess it really depends, initially I figured it would work out the same as the Cammalleri situation but the team is in a much different place now than they were then.

I mean, even letting Glencross walk as a UFA if the return is garbage but getting to keep him for our own playoff run isnt a terrible way to go either.

An offering team has to realize that and give sufficient incentive to trade him. We're not holding our hats in our hands here, we dont have to trade him.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by polak

Yeah we're not going to get anything substantial for him UNLESS he's packaged with someone else... Sven?

I'm not a Glencross fan but who else is out there that is a UFA and playing for a team that is willing to deal said player?

Vermette - higher priced, different category
Jagr - same category as Glencross, Glencross younger

I could see a 2nd round pick for the guy, and I'd be happy as hell with that.

[handgroen]

let's start guessing the teams he listed

penguins, ducks, preds, red wings maybe?

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

It could just mean that a lot of those teams are expecting to get him for a lowball offer.

That seems like a strange waste of time for numerous playoff contenders. Glencross has value. Solid veteran, solid goal scoring potential, good contract expiring at the end of the year. If Dominic Moore can return a second (on a few occassions), I don't see why Glencross couldn't, as well.

The NTC may affect the offers somewhat, but I don't understand how anyone thinks he has little to no value?