[PGT] Flames Grab a Point in a Snoozer

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by DOOM

What? He hasnt been good lately.

He saved the game 2 nights ago against Boston with an intense backcheck. He plays one of the most determined games along the boards and is a great backchecker and one of our best PK guys. Hockey isn't always about the first 3 categories of the stat line, Jooris does a lot of the little things well and they seemingly go unnoticed a lot of the time. I think you may have forgotten that he is an undrafted walk on in his NHL rookie season and his 2nd full pro year.

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by AC

Oh come on. Drop the martyr complex already.

The mods have told you the issue is not that you have negative opinions, it's that you make one point and repeat it non-stop.

It does appear to be the issue with everyone else.

I cant say anything "negative" without 5 of you following the post without any useful contributions.

[GioforPM]

Johnny's banked a few off other players himself (Drew Doughty says hi) so I guess turnabout and all that.

As someone said, this is a bit of a balance for the lucky goal last game - just wish it was the Bruins who took the extra point and not Minnie if the Flames were going to give one away.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by DOOM

It does appear to be the issue with everyone else.

I cant say anything "negative" without 5 of you following the post without any useful contributions.

It's almost like you have a reputation or something.

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

He saved the game 2 nights ago against Boston with an intense backcheck. He plays one of the most determined games along the boards and is a great backchecker and one of our best PK guys. Hockey isn't always about the first 3 categories of the stat line, Jooris does a lot of the little things well and they seemingly go unnoticed a lot of the time. I think you may have forgotten that he is an undrafted walk on in his NHL rookie season and his 2nd full pro year.

I definitely have not forgotten that.

Some of you need to remember how mediocre he was in the AHL last year. He had a hot streak earlier, but hes not that player.

[AcGold]

Oh well, Winnipeg is tanking. We just gotta dodge LA and Dallas. Winnipeg might finish below 90 points.

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by DOOM

It does appear to be the issue with everyone else.

I cant say anything "negative" without 5 of you following the post without any useful contributions.

Because anyone can see your critical posts are weak and designed to make you the center of attention in EVERY thread.

[Obsidian]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

After seeing that game I cannot see them winning a bunch more. Lost to Canucks in regulation with a poor effort, then only a good first period in this one. They're in for a correction with their schedule

I think what you mean to say is the current Wilds play and success is unsustainable.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well actually you can as the goal is on him for poor positioning giving Koivu a skate to bank the puck off. I love the kid but it's okay to call him out when he's not playing well. He will learn from these mistakes as it's his first season of professional hockey.

I think it's fair to start point out errors now rookie or not. It's not like this is his 5th game. But rather than destructive criticism, constructive is better, which I'm sure Hartley or whoever will go through with him.

[Mony]

Meh, the only team I'm certain will bottom out of the race is Dallas after losing Seguin. Everyone else is fair game and it's gonna be a tight race

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't think harping on the poor starts is being negative. I also feel that the comebacks are kind of overshadowing that this team simply doesn't come prepared to play in the first period of games. It's really not acceptable what's going on with this team as it really is going to start costing them wether it causes them to miss the playoffs or get beat in a seven game series it will do them in eventually.

And yet if you dare point out a glaring negative about this team you're a harbinger of doom. I'm extremely happy about the Flames season so far, who wouldn't be? But to be so close to a playoff spot and seeing them make the same mistakes over and over again is frustrating. Yet I'll still take this over every season since '09, being invested-yet-frustrated with a team is still better than total apathy which is what I felt until the Iginla trade finally signaled a change

I think I'll just stop watching the first half of Flames games from here on out and only tune in when they decide to start playing, that way I can ignore the weaknesses of the team and just be happy when they pull out another miracle comeback like everyone else

[Dion]

nm

[AC]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Oh well, Winnipeg is tanking. We just gotta dodge LA and Dallas. Winnipeg might finish below 90 points.

They're still 4-1-2 in their last 7 games...

Hopefully losing Perreault slows them down a bit.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I love the kid but it's okay to call him out when he's not playing well.

Except he was playing well tonight as a whole. One of the best players on the ice.

Calling out a bad play is fine. Making it sound like it was the whole game is not, but that's more of the same from you.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by DOOM

I definitely have not forgotten that.

Some of you need to remember how mediocre he was in the AHL last year. He had a hot streak earlier, but hes not that player.

Why does last year have anything to do with this year? I'm sure he vastly improved. I don't think it's an issue to point out things in Jooris' play, but to jump around screaming about sending him down to the Addy is a bit much, no?

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Oh well, Winnipeg is tanking. We just gotta dodge LA and Dallas. Winnipeg might finish below 90 points.

? Why do you say that? They've been pretty good the last two games, no?

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by DOOM

I cant say anything "negative" without 5 of you following the post without any useful contributions.

You seem to have confused "negative" with "nonsensical".

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Oh well, Winnipeg is tanking. We just gotta dodge LA and Dallas. Winnipeg might finish below 90 points.

How is Winnipeg tanking?

Sharks look poised to fallout but the Kings and Wild are coming in hot

[2ArmBands]

I personally didn't witness a snoozer tonight. Good hockey game Flames played quite well outside of the usual slow start...

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by DOOM

I definitely have not forgotten that.

Some of you need to remember how mediocre he was in the AHL last year. He had a hot streak earlier, but hes not that player.

Again, the system down in the AHL is full of so many young players, Josh was one of those players last year, a rookie then too, and he ended up having a strong first campaign. I think we need to stop having such an all or nothing mentality with our guys, especially the younger guys like Jooris. Is Bouma that player?? He truly looks like he is trending towards that now as he begins to hit peaks. Will Bouma regress/fall back to earth a bit, almost guarenteed he will, does that mean he isn't the offensive power forward he is right now?? No. It just means players hit peaks and valleys through out their career and right now Jooris is in a valley offensively just like Bouma is hitting a peak. The encouraging sign is that Jooris isn't a liability out there and he is continuing to play a smart 200 foot game. I think his offense will come back though, he's only got his entire career to find it again.