Feb 15 Practice - Bollig and Wolf likely out against Bruins. Ramo to start again.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Hopefully he waves his NMC then and we never hand out another one of those full NTC's again. I'm not opposed to modified no-movement clauses, but the full ones are ludicrous.

End of the day, I'm not a Glencross fan and hope we move on from him plain and simple.

[Travis Munroe]

I officially give up on beating this dead horse - Not 1 person who is in favor of keeping Glencross has been able to comment on the following facts -

1) Glencross wants more money and whether you like it or not, the team is no different with or without him in the lineup (this year)
2) Glencross is stuck on the 3rd and 4th line for the rest of the year. He may see the odd shift or even game in the top 6 however those 2 lines are pretty solidified right now.
3) Asking for more money is pretty ridiculous considering the point production and games healthy.....

So if he is so money driven to the point of making a comment before the season starts that he is not willing to take a home town discount on this next contract, he better figure out a way to start putting the puck in the net and staying healthy on the 3/4 line for the flames or tell the team he will entertain a trade to a team where he can try to put the puck in the net and stay healthy on the top 2 lines.

Realistically, none of us know where they are at with contract talks but I do know that management has made a point of stating when they were trying to get things done with certain players and I havent heard a peep about Glencross all year. He is in what should be the prime of his career and if this is what he can deliver in his prime on a contract year, I would say he is easily replaceable from a number of guys in Addy.
If we can get a first for him and he can realize that waiving his NMC can mean the difference in millions of dollars, it is a win win for both sides.
If there is not a solid prospect or 1st on the table, you keep him until years end and let him decide how serious he was about wanting more money.

[Travis Munroe]

All that said - I hope he goes out tonight and puts 3 in, catches fire and gets back to the Glencross we have seen in the past!

[dino7c]

Glencross doesn't want to waive, you would basically need to put a gun to his head...the message that sends is not worth the 2nd or 3rd round pick and losing him for the stretch drive

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

I officially give up on beating this dead horse - Not 1 person who is in favor of keeping Glencross has been able to comment on the following facts -

1) Glencross wants more money and whether you like it or not, the team is no different with or without him in the lineup (this year)
2) Glencross is stuck on the 3rd and 4th line for the rest of the year. He may see the odd shift or even game in the top 6 however those 2 lines are pretty solidified right now.
3) Asking for more money is pretty ridiculous considering the point production and games healthy.....

So if he is so money driven to the point of making a comment before the season starts that he is not willing to take a home town discount on this next contract, he better figure out a way to start putting the puck in the net and staying healthy on the 3/4 line for the flames or tell the team he will entertain a trade to a team where he can try to put the puck in the net and stay healthy on the top 2 lines.

Realistically, none of us know where they are at with contract talks but I do know that management has made a point of stating when they were trying to get things done with certain players and I havent heard a peep about Glencross all year. He is in what should be the prime of his career and if this is what he can deliver in his prime on a contract year, I would say he is easily replaceable from a number of guys in Addy.
If we can get a first for him and he can realize that waiving his NMC can mean the difference in millions of dollars, it is a win win for both sides.
If there is not a solid prospect or 1st on the table, you keep him until years end and let him decide how serious he was about wanting more money.

1) it is a fact (rightly so) that he wants more money. It is not a fact that the team is the same with or without him (that is simply your opinion)

2) first of all, you don't know that he is going to be bottom 6 for the rest of the year - injuries happen. And second, what difference does that make? Players on the 3rd line can contribute to the team as well

3) asking for more money is not the slightest bit ridiculous - he is worth more than $2.55M. And if he isn't, then he won't get it. So what is your point?

So the only 'fact' that you present is that he wants more money

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

I officially give up on beating this dead horse - Not 1 person who is in favor of keeping Glencross has been able to comment on the following facts -

1) Glencross wants more money and whether you like it or not, the team is no different with or without him in the lineup (this year)
2) Glencross is stuck on the 3rd and 4th line for the rest of the year. He may see the odd shift or even game in the top 6 however those 2 lines are pretty solidified right now.
3) Asking for more money is pretty ridiculous considering the point production and games healthy.....

So if he is so money driven to the point of making a comment before the season starts that he is not willing to take a home town discount on this next contract, he better figure out a way to start putting the puck in the net and staying healthy on the 3/4 line for the flames or tell the team he will entertain a trade to a team where he can try to put the puck in the net and stay healthy on the top 2 lines.

Realistically, none of us know where they are at with contract talks but I do know that management has made a point of stating when they were trying to get things done with certain players and I havent heard a peep about Glencross all year. He is in what should be the prime of his career and if this is what he can deliver in his prime on a contract year, I would say he is easily replaceable from a number of guys in Addy.
If we can get a first for him and he can realize that waiving his NMC can mean the difference in millions of dollars, it is a win win for both sides.
If there is not a solid prospect or 1st on the table, you keep him until years end and let him decide how serious he was about wanting more money.

Yeah, for the most part this is a pretty subjective collection of opinions you're trying to pass off as "facts".

[Red Menace]

I love that top line, but boy it sure seems this team is lost when they aren't on the ice.
Well, i should add Gio-Brodie and Backlund to that list as well.....seems very hard for the rest of the guys to get much going these days.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

I officially give up on beating this dead horse - Not 1 person who is in favor of keeping Glencross has been able to comment on the following facts -

1) Glencross wants more money and whether you like it or not, the team is no different with or without him in the lineup (this year)
2) Glencross is stuck on the 3rd and 4th line for the rest of the year. He may see the odd shift or even game in the top 6 however those 2 lines are pretty solidified right now.
3) Asking for more money is pretty ridiculous considering the point production and games healthy.....

So if he is so money driven to the point of making a comment before the season starts that he is not willing to take a home town discount on this next contract, he better figure out a way to start putting the puck in the net and staying healthy on the 3/4 line for the flames or tell the team he will entertain a trade to a team where he can try to put the puck in the net and stay healthy on the top 2 lines.

Realistically, none of us know where they are at with contract talks but I do know that management has made a point of stating when they were trying to get things done with certain players and I havent heard a peep about Glencross all year. He is in what should be the prime of his career and if this is what he can deliver in his prime on a contract year, I would say he is easily replaceable from a number of guys in Addy.
If we can get a first for him and he can realize that waiving his NMC can mean the difference in millions of dollars, it is a win win for both sides.
If there is not a solid prospect or 1st on the table, you keep him until years end and let him decide how serious he was about wanting more money.

What leverage to the Flames have in this situation to "tell him to give them a list"? They have none. It's not like there are years left on his deal, we are talking about months at most of an uncomfortable situation for him dealing with a situation where he knows his current team no longer wants him. You are clearly missing the leverage points in this negotiation. In season, Glencross holds all the cards, after the season is done, the Flames do.

Which is magnified by the fact that your assertions that Glencross doesn't make the team better and can easily be replaced by a forward in the AHL. Completely false statements. Glencross is easily.......easily, not even close to debatable, one of the top 12 forwards in this organization. Therefore by default, he makes the current Flames better when he's in the line up. What you are suggesting means that today, in this moment in time, Glencross is the worst of the forwards up in the NHL, and is also worse than many we have in the AHL. That notion is actually laughable. There is no one left in the A for the Flames that is currently a "lock" for a full time NHL player. Glencross is an abosolute lock to be an NHL player next season, no matter where it is. Rediculous to suggest otherwise.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

I officially give up on beating this dead horse - Not 1 person who is in favor of keeping Glencross has been able to comment on the following facts -

1) Glencross wants more money and whether you like it or not, the team is no different with or without him in the lineup (this year)
2) Glencross is stuck on the 3rd and 4th line for the rest of the year. He may see the odd shift or even game in the top 6 however those 2 lines are pretty solidified right now.
3) Asking for more money is pretty ridiculous considering the point production and games healthy.....

So if he is so money driven to the point of making a comment before the season starts that he is not willing to take a home town discount on this next contract, he better figure out a way to start putting the puck in the net and staying healthy on the 3/4 line for the flames or tell the team he will entertain a trade to a team where he can try to put the puck in the net and stay healthy on the top 2 lines.

Realistically, none of us know where they are at with contract talks but I do know that management has made a point of stating when they were trying to get things done with certain players and I havent heard a peep about Glencross all year. He is in what should be the prime of his career and if this is what he can deliver in his prime on a contract year, I would say he is easily replaceable from a number of guys in Addy.
If we can get a first for him and he can realize that waiving his NMC can mean the difference in millions of dollars, it is a win win for both sides.
If there is not a solid prospect or 1st on the table, you keep him until years end and let him decide how serious he was about wanting more money.

Just to play devils advocate ... You say that Glencross is stuck in the bottom 6 in Calgary. I would like to know which contender would automatically put him in the top 6?

He probably has a better chance to go on a hot streak with the flames than another club. Not every player when traded gels with a new system and line mates straight away.

Also just say he goes to a team like Pitt and plays with Malkin, You said he could make millions more. Not sure if I buy that. Glencross would probably have to score 20 goals in his time there to get that kind of raise. I think the market is already set for someone like Glencross.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Glencross is 4th in forward points this year, avg. .55 points a game and is a +8.............. yah, he's a bottom 6 guy on the Flames and is easily replacible by someon in the AHL...............

[Yoho]

I like it Realator 1, we need more controversial posts from you!

[Antithesis]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

I officially give up on beating this dead horse - Not 1 person who is in favor of keeping Glencross has been able to comment on the following facts -

1) Glencross wants more money and whether you like it or not, the team is no different with or without him in the lineup (this year)
2) Glencross is stuck on the 3rd and 4th line for the rest of the year. He may see the odd shift or even game in the top 6 however those 2 lines are pretty solidified right now.
3) Asking for more money is pretty ridiculous considering the point production and games healthy.....

Aside from the fact that you're trying to pass off your opinion as fact, it also must be considered that trading Glencross right now could send the wrong message to the team. This is something that could haunt the Flames for years into the future.

Also, it's kind of ridiculous to expect that getting a 1st for Glencross is within the realm of possibility, "considering the point production and games healthy".

He's not going to waive his NMC (in my opinion) and it's well within his rights to do so.