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Bend it like Bourgeois · 02-15-2015, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by getbak

The worst-case scenario is that he has to come to Calgary after the Frontenacs' season ends, which isn't really a bad thing at all.

Can a chl player be called up to the nhl even after their season ends? For some reason I thought it was emergencies only.

Enoch Root · 02-15-2015, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Whats the threshold of games played for a rookie year?? 25?? Maybe they are waiting for that to pass so he can still have a rookie season next year?

Of all the things that go into the decision, this will not be one of them.

schteve_d · 02-15-2015, 02:17 PM

I think I've had enough with the "cup of coffee" analogy.

Bandwagon Surfer · 02-15-2015, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Of all the things that go into the decision, this will not be one of them.

I would hope they are considering all factors. They may not weight them all the same, but it would be pretty foolish to ignore things all together.

The overall question is how can the flames extract the most value out of their assets so that they can win the cup. There are a lot of techniques to do that. Developing players well is definitely a great way to increase the value of your players. But cap space is another asset to manage, and using ELCs to get more value from your spending is another technique which has been used successfully as well.

Grossly oversimplifing: will developing Bennett in the NHL this year give the Flames more value towards winning a cup, compared to what they would get from the 3-4 million in extra cap space in 2018-2019? It is a good question, and something which should be considered.

Ashasx · 02-15-2015, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon Surfer

I would hope they are considering all factors. They may not weight them all the same, but it would be pretty foolish to ignore things all together.

The overall question is how can the flames extract the most value out of their assets so that they can win the cup. There are a lot of techniques to do that. Developing players well is definitely a great way to increase the value of your players. But cap space is another asset to manage, and using ELCs to get more value from your spending is another technique which has been used successfully as well.

Grossly oversimplifing: will developing Bennett in the NHL this year give the Flames more value towards winning a cup, compared to what they would get from the 3-4 million in extra cap space in 2018-2019? It is a good question, and something which should be considered.

That has nothing to do with being eligible for the Calder.

Enoch Root · 02-15-2015, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon Surfer

I would hope they are considering all factors. They may not weight them all the same, but it would be pretty foolish to ignore things all together.

The overall question is how can the flames extract the most value out of their assets so that they can win the cup. There are a lot of techniques to do that. Developing players well is definitely a great way to increase the value of your players. But cap space is another asset to manage, and using ELCs to get more value from your spending is another technique which has been used successfully as well.

Grossly oversimplifing: will developing Bennett in the NHL this year give the Flames more value towards winning a cup, compared to what they would get from the 3-4 million in extra cap space in 2018-2019? It is a good question, and something which should be considered.

I agree that asset management is important, including ELC contracts.

But that's not what was referenced here. Randorf (or Gally, whichever) was talking about 25 games - a reference to Bennett's Calder eligibility.

The Flames will consider what is best for Bennett long term. But I doubt very much they make a decision based on whether or not he is Calder eligible this year or next year.

Badgers Nose · 02-15-2015, 02:47 PM

He is the bext acquisition they can make at this year's deadline, no trade required.

Flames third line is instantly better, and it makes our 4th better too by bumping someone down.

Vulcan · 02-15-2015, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyT

10 games regular season or playoffs for a full year of contract is burned
<25 regular season games for Calder eligibility

and 40 games to keep from expending a year toward unrestricted free agency.

Bandwagon Surfer · 02-15-2015, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

That has nothing to do with being eligible for the Calder.

Ah sorry, I misread things. I thought Calder eligibility was being discussed as a factor into what the flames should do, not as goal by itself.

TheDebaser · 02-15-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by schteve_d

I think I've had enough with the "cup of coffee" analogy.

Maybe Bennett could roll up a rim or two in Calgary before we send him to Kingston. That or he could dunk his donut before we send him down. Or maybe he could butter a bisket in calgary and get some pro experience.

dammage79 · 02-15-2015, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDebaser

Maybe Bennett could roll up a rim or two in Calgary before we send him to Kingston. That or he could dunk his donut before we send him down. Or maybe he could butter a bisket in calgary and get some pro experience.

More aptly, perhaps he could throw a slice or two in the toaster from time to time.

Banner · 02-15-2015, 03:36 PM

Flames probably won't care about Calder eligibility since one of McDavid or Eichel will win it next season.

icecube · 02-15-2015, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by schteve_d

I think I've had enough with the "cup of coffee" analogy.

"Cup of coffee in the big time yeeeeeah!"

Scornfire · 02-15-2015, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

More aptly, perhaps he could throw a slice or two in the toaster from time to time.

I'd love to see Bennett get a slice of toast before any decision is made

Bingo · 02-15-2015, 04:56 PM

Love the passion guys ...

every subtle change in the Bennett story results in a polar brawl on the "send him back right now" vs "give him his 9 games" angles.

apply ... rinse ... repeat

Iniggywetrust · 02-15-2015, 04:57 PM

I think a taste of pie would be good for his development

Calgary4LIfe · 02-15-2015, 05:00 PM

No one is advocating that Bennett have a full cup of coffee. Start him off with a sip or two.

Finger Cookin · 02-15-2015, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bingo

Love the passion guys ...

every subtle change in the Bennett story results in a polar brawl on the "send him back right now" vs "give him his 9 games" angles.

apply ... rinse ... repeat

Next subtle change - the actual decision being announced and carried out - will simply change the debate on whether it was the right decision or not. I think we need more effort to push this discussion to coffee vs. donuts. vs. cake vs. pie.

Rick M. · 02-15-2015, 05:10 PM

Nah, give him a thermos full of coffee.

442scotty · 02-15-2015, 05:15 PM

I think you have to give him a game and see what happens... if he doesn't do that well he will know it and will also not feel so bummed out about going down knowing that he has work to do.. On the other hand if he does real well...you give him another etc... He has earned at least one game and I would be shocked if they don't let him play at least one.