Top 20 Flames prospects according to HF (Feb 11, 2015)

[codynw]

Ferland is really underrated.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Versus our rankings in the past two summers

edited for readability:

HF                            CP2014   CP2013
1. (1)   Johnny Gaudreau, LW       1        3
2. (2)   Sam Bennett, C            2       NR
3. (5)   Markus Granlund, C        5       12
4. (NR)  Drew Shore, C            NR       NR
5. (18)  Josh Jooris, C           35       NR
6. (6)   Tyler Wotherspoon, D      7        6
7. (8)   Emile Poirier, RW         4        9
8. (9)   Joni Ortio, G             9       30
9. (10)  Jon Gillies, G           10        4
10. (7)  Patrick Sieloff, D       12        7
11. (11) Morgan Klimchuk, LW       6       10
12. (12) Bill Arnold, C           13       18
13. (NR) Michael Ferland, LW      15       26
14. (NR) Ryan Culkin, D           21       NR
15. (20) Keegan Kanzig, D         20       22
16. (14) Kenny Agostino, LW       17       12
17. (17) Mason McDonald, G        19       NR
18. (4)  Max Reinhart, C           8       14
19. (13) Ben Hanowski, LW         25       24
20. (9)  Mark Jankowski, C        11        5

[dammage79]

Jankowski should be higher, Seiloff should be lower.

Klimchuk should be top ten at the very least.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Jankowski should be higher, Seiloff should be lower.

Klimchuk should be top ten at the very least.

Who do you drop? I just don't think you can drop Shore out for Klimchuk at this point. Gillies? Wotherspoon?

[Where ru Chris O'Sullivan]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Josh Jooris has prospect status but Sven Baertshi doesn't?

They were reading CP and thought Sven was heading to the peg

[Geeoff]

It's kind of weird to see Johnny on the list, since you could almost put him in the same position when ranking players on our main roster.

[Erick Estrada]

Poirier should be 3rd IMO. I can't believe how this guy continues to fly under the radar.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Poirier should be 3rd IMO. I can't believe how this guy continues to fly under the radar.

AHL All Star and leading his team in points as a 20 year old rookie is apparently no big deal.

[GioforPM]

It's funny - even with his AHL play, which has been good, Sven ahs a tough time cracking the top 10 on that list - he probably does but with Granlund and Ortio having good NHL stints compared to Sven's, and Johnny and Jooris being legit NHLers, Sven's probably at 7 or 8 on my list. Obviously higher if you take out JJ and JG.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Who do you drop? I just don't think you can drop Shore out for Klimchuk at this point. Gillies? Wotherspoon?

Seiloff.

[JoelOtto29]

what a fall for reinhart this season

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by codynw

AHL All Star and leading his team in points as a 20 year old rookie is apparently no big deal.

Obviously they give Johnny, Jooris and Granlund credit for their NHL play. If you take out the present NHlers Gaudreau and Jooris, Poirier is 5th. Hard to argue Bennett isn't a higher rated prospect, and Granlund hasn't proven he's legit. So you then only have Wotherspoon, who's a tough comparable due to position and Shore. I'd agree he could rank ahead of them. But not by a whole lot.

[GranteedEV]

How I would rank them currently:

1) Gaudreau*
2) Bennett
3) Ortio
4) Poirier
5) Wotherspoon
6) Jooris*
7) Shore
8) Granlund
9) Arnold
10) Gillies
11) Jankowski
12) Hickey
13) Kulak
14) Culkin
15) Ramage
16) Rafikov
17) Kanzig
18) Ferland
19) Reinhart
20) Sieloff
21) McDonald
22) Klimchuk

*I don't consider prospects. I don't really consider Baertschi or Wolf prospects either. But Baertschi would be #3 below Bennett for me and Wolf around 7.

It's probably time to trade Agostino and Hanowski to a team that may have a use for them.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by mile

lol

Poirier's ranking should be higher too. He should be in the top 5 at least, and personally I'd have him in the top 3.

He's top three when you include Gaudreau. After Bennett, I think Poirier could be the highest upside player of anyone in our system.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

How I would rank them currently:

1) Gaudreau*
2) Bennett
3) Ortio
4) Poirier
5) Wotherspoon
6) Jooris*
7) Shore
8) Granlund
9) Arnold
10) Gillies
11) Jankowski
12) Hickey
13) Kulak
14) Culkin
15) Ramage
16) Rafikov
17) Kanzig
18) Ferland
19) Reinhart
20) Sieloff
21) McDonald
22) Klimchuk

*I don't consider prospects. I don't really consider Baertschi or Wolf prospects either. But Baertschi would be #3 below Bennett for me and Wolf around 7.

It's probably time to trade Agostino and Hanowski to a team that may have a use for them.

Really?

[FBI]

Yup Poirier needs to be higher, Shore lower, Sieloff way lower, Janko higher, Baertschi still top 5 (top 10 at least),

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Really?

I'd love to see him rise, but neither his numbers, size, position, or competition really do him any favors. Let's see what he does next year in the AHL. He's likely to rise rapidly, but i'm not willing to bet any money on it. At LW IMO he's below Gaudreau, Baertschi, Granlund right now and that's a definite luxury.

[SeanCharles]

Mine:

1. Johnny Gaudreau
2. Sam Bennett
3. Emile Poirier
4. Markus Granlund
5. Jon Gillies
6. Joni Ortio
7. Drew Shore
8. Josh Jooris
9. Tyler Wotherspoon
10. Morgan Klimchuk
11. Mark Jankowski
12. Bill Arnold
13. Michael Ferland
14. Ryan Culkin
15. Patrick Sieloff
16. Mason McDonald
17. Keegan Kanzig
18. Kenny Agostino
19. Max Reinhart
20. Ben Hanowski

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Bennett, Poirier, Ortio and Granlund would be our clearcut top 4 in some order at this point IMO. Very debatable after that.

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I'd love to see him rise, but neither his numbers, size, position, or competition really do him any favors. Let's see what he does next year in the AHL. He's likely to rise rapidly, but i'm not willing to bet any money on it. At LW IMO he's definitely below Gaudreau, Baertschi, Granlund right now and that's a definite luxury.

Fair enough if that's your opinion. Still can't see why you have players like Kulak/Kanzig/Damage/Sieloff ahead of him.

Also Culak has definitely moved ahead of Kulak this year.