Evander Kane tracksuit saga

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Locke

Top story on TSN.ca

http://www.tsn.ca/trade-talk-virtanen-for-kane-1.204133

The irony of that is TSN is quoting Botchford who was speculating based on Bob McKenzie's speculation of what Kane would demand.

[SofaProfessor]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Spoiler!

Why is there a question mark on that sign? I'm Ron Burgundy?

[Psytic]

Bart, Hanowski and a 4th

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by SofaProfessor

Why is there a question mark on that sign? I'm Ron Burgundy?

I don't know, but I like it. It gives it a sarcastic and condescending tone.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

The irony of that is TSN is quoting Botchford who was speculating based on Bob McKenzie's speculation of what Kane would demand.

The other bit of irony is that botchford is a hack and mackenzie is great.

TSN Story:

Random twitter response to bob mackenzie!

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Friedman on Kane:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/w...t-change-ways/

Excellent article. Friedman really is the best in the business at this stuff.

So hockey execs think he is an elite talent, and there's nothing wrong with his game on-ice. It's really about non-conformity. This quote is telling:

Jeff Carter is a talented guy who needed direction, to be shown the way,” one scout said. “Now he’s a different player on and off the ice, a real leader on that team. You wouldn’t have said that previously. I see real similarities between those guys.”

[Northendzone]

i read a story on TSN Go on my phone yesterday that suggested that the Flames are interested in Kane - I don't recall any mention of who the Flames would offer.

I think if the Flames could get Kane in exchange for Bennett than that kind of a trade would be justifyable; however, I'd assume that in the initial bids, the Jets will try and get a roster player and a prospect, and at this point the only roster player i might consider offering up is Glencross and to do that he would have to be resigned and be open to a trade to Wpg - so it would seem that the Falmes don't ahve the right mix of guys to make a trade as the flames would run the risk of upsetting the dressing room dynamics (assuming they are all good), by shipping out a roster player and bringing in someone like Kane

Of course trading for Kane assumes that he is ready to put on the big boy pants

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Friedman on Kane:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/w...t-change-ways/

Honestly, I frickin' love Friedman. The guy really knows how spell things out for you. He writes in a clear, conversational tone that gets the point across. It's an interesting article that conveys the type of crappy hockey environment in which Kane developed. You can see exactly why he is the way he is - a complete lack of leadership.

Like many of you, I'm just wondering what a strong leadership group and change of scenery would do for this kid. I mean, c'mon, Giordano, Hudler, Wideman and Glencross is a far superior group of role models than he's ever been around.

As a side note, under the headline "The Injury," does anyone else think that anonymous former-NHL player-turned-team-employee might be Conroy? The guy sure talks a lot in that quote haha. I'm just speculating of course, but who knows.

[Travis Munroe]

Have been through a bunch of pages in this thread but not all 39 so please excuse me if something similar has been posted.
What about:

Glencross, and this years first & second to the Jets
Evander Kane to the caps
Madison Bowey & the caps first to the flames

Glencross has the NMC but he could easily be burried on the flames 3/4th line if everyone keeps contributing the way they are. He immediatly moves up into the jets top 2 lines which can help for his contract negotiations and salary.

The flames end up trading Glencross who I don't think is re signed at years end, swap firsts with the caps and essentially only give away their 2nd round pick for Bowey who was a 2nd round pick but based on what I have seen, would go in the first round if the draft were re done.

[Badgers Nose]

I'd want Winnipeg's 1st this year and next next if we are giving up Bennett. #### I can't believe I just wrote that. As insane as that compensation would be, it's even more insane that people are cool with the idea.

Bennett is the kind of kid you dream about drafting, like Moneyhands he is mature well beyond his years.

We'd be helping out a rival clean out the trash in the room. And we would be giving them a stud to build around for the next 12-15 years.

Barf! I hope Flames don't make this trade.

[GoJetsGo]

I really hope Kane ends up in Vancouver. It's a match made in heaven. That d-bag attitude will fight right in and it will be great watching him implode under the pressure there.

The best part is how many Canuck fans see all of his behaviour and character issues and are chomping at he bit to acquire him. Par for the course with that fan-base / franchise.

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

i read a story on TSN Go on my phone yesterday that suggested that the Flames are interested in Kane - I don't recall any mention of who the Flames would offer.

I think if the Flames could get Kane in exchange for Bennett than that kind of a trade would be justifyable; however, I'd assume that in the initial bids, the Jets will try and get a roster player and a prospect, and at this point the only roster player i might consider offering up is Glencross and to do that he would have to be resigned and be open to a trade to Wpg - so it would seem that the Falmes don't ahve the right mix of guys to make a trade as the flames would run the risk of upsetting the dressing room dynamics (assuming they are all good), by shipping out a roster player and bringing in someone like Kane

Of course trading for Kane assumes that he is ready to put on the big boy pants

This is utterly insane. Are you sure that you would agree to trade Bennett for Kane or is that a typo?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Given I like Virtanen and would prefer to not have to hate him when he turns pro, I would be okay with that.

Virtanen and a first would probably be near the top end of what Winnipeg could hope to get too. They won't get Horvat, another good prospect and a first.

IMO, Virtanen and a 1st would be a clear win for Winnipeg, so I would be happy to see it.

I think that is about as good as the Jets could hope for in return.

[Travis Munroe]

Kane entering the league is of similar value to Bennett

Bennett is currently much younger and has the attitude any team would die for

Kane + this years first for Bennett is still a bit of a stretch considering where that first will be.

Kane, Morrisey and this years first for Bennett would be a fair deal imo although it would suck to lose Bennett.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

Kane entering the league is of similar value to Bennett

Bennett is currently much younger and has the attitude any team would die for

Kane + this years first for Bennett is still a bit of a stretch considering where that first will be.

Kane, Morrisey and this years first for Bennett would be a fair deal imo although it would suck to lose Bennett.

You really think Bennett is worth that much?

[SeanCharles]

There is no way Calgary is trading Bennett. For Kane or anyone else..

They may have just drafted him but they have already invested alot in him and the optics of trading the highest ever draft pick in team history, when he looked like a solid NHLer as an 18 yr old in training camp, is horrendous.

Never going to happen.

Maybe a deal surrounding someone else will be offered by Treliving but Bennett, Monahan, Gaudreau, Brodie and Gio are this teams foundation so they are not going anywhere.

[saillias]

Or we could just stay away from hockey's Kanye West who would probably continue acting like a brat if his rights were only moved 2 provinces west.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I'd want Winnipeg's 1st this year and next next if we are giving up Bennett. #### I can't believe I just wrote that. As insane as that compensation would be, it's even more insane that people are cool with the idea.

Bennett is the kind of kid you dream about drafting, like Moneyhands he is mature well beyond his years.

We'd be helping out a rival clean out the trash in the room. And we would be giving them a stud to build around for the next 12-15 years.

Barf! I hope Flames don't make this trade.

Green text?? Kane and 2 first round picks for Bennett? Lol.

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by Weitz

You really think Bennett is worth that much?

Based on how I see it - Bennett is of much more value than Kane
The jets first this year could be a 15th overall which is right around the late end of 2nd tier first picks. Someone who may be a year or 2 from being NHL ready.

Kane and Morrisey are close but Morrisey isn't proven at the NHL level and although he is a great puck moving d man, some are concerned about his size.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

Green text?? Kane and 2 first round picks for Bennett? Lol.

Not really, that's my point. It would have to be something so stupid good you could never say no to it.

Even then I don't think I would make that trade based on all the press I have read on Bennett.

I've got doubts about Kane and how he might wreck this team's chemistry.

Flames do not need this right now, and they would be helping a rival get better through subtraction.