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[dino7c]

artistically it was an interesting episode but the pace was a little slow

[ken0042]

Here's my question- why didn't they attempt to cauterize his wound at the house; or at least in the housing complex? Isn't is just a matter of starting a fire, and burning the end of the stump?

Sure there were a few zombies around. But not more than they could handle. And even so, go into Noah's house (which has now been cleared) and do it.

[greyshep]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Here's my question- why didn't they attempt to cauterize his wound at the house; or at least in the housing complex? Isn't is just a matter of starting a fire, and burning the end of the stump?

Sure there were a few zombies around. But not more than they could handle. And even so, go into Noah's house (which has now been cleared) and do it.

There was so many questions that could be asked regarding the events in that room. After all this time how did a weak small teenage zombie manage to sneak up behind the guy in the first place? He knew the house had active zombies in it when he walked the hallway. All of a sudden he forgets to be on his guard because he is mesmerized looking at photos on a wall??

Sorry but that was lame writing and further evidence to me that they just figured they would dispatch a character while the writers are trying to figure out where to go from here.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by greyshep

There was so many questions that could be asked regarding the events in that room. After all this time how did a weak small teenage zombie manage to sneak up behind the guy in the first place? He knew the house had active zombies in it when he walked the hallway. All of a sudden he forgets to be on his guard because he is mesmerized looking at photos on a wall??

Sorry but that was lame writing and further evidence to me that they just figured they would dispatch a character while the writers are trying to figure out where to go from here.

When it comes to the zombies I've just stopped asking questions like this. None of it makes any sense. If they're falling apart and rotting, how do they have enough strength to bite through skin? Through clothes? To even move? If the group can smash their heads like soft melons, how can the zombies overpower and bite? Where is this strength and toughness coming from all of a sudden? And how come they never bleed out? Even the torsos we just saw. What do they run on, magic? Fairy dust? If they're still capable of locomotion, they need to have some working systems in the body.

So how big the zombie is, really shouldn't make any difference. There are bigger hurdles to get over here.

EDIT: To add, yeah the writing felt lazy (again). As I mentioned, I don't mind dream sequences, trippy stuff, good imagery, philosophical questions. But they just kept repeating the same things over and over and over again. The runtime of the episode could have been half of what it really was. Such obvious filler.

Kinda hoping some of my guesses are correct. That'll save the episode a bit.

[MotoRacer]

Originally Posted by rohara66

I feel like I've watched this show for so long that I have to continue.... but with episodes like that one I think I'm done. Not to mention how the last couple seasons have also stunk.

It's.... just..... sooooo...... bloody..... boring.......

Exactly

[djsFlames]

Negan really needs to show up, like, next episode.

They need to put a face on their enemy, that isn't just "survival". But being that the next ep is titled "Them", perhaps we will get some introductions.

[Inglewood Jack]

^ again, who is this and where's the TV show based evidence of the existence of such a character?

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Teh_Bandwagoner

I wouldn't consider a major turns in plots as "filler" episodes. And Tyrese dying is quite a major plot development. Watch an anime where they make filler episodes just because they haven't caught up with the manga. Those are true fillers, and they're generally awful lol.



In a way, they did. That whole hospital arc was pretty much just leading to Beth's death. Even worse is that they introduced a whole whack of people that we had no emotional attachment to, have them kill Beth, and then never see them again (excl. Noah)?

So instead of one episode with Tyrese, you got like 3 or 4, and it wasn't very good hahah. Give me this one interesting episode over those 3 or 4 meh episodes any day!

It was such a weak death though. Like come on, he survives 2 years in a ZA only to have a 10 year old child zombie 'ninja sneak' up on him when he knew he was there already. And then the other zombie magically appeared to finish him off. Tyrese deserved better even though he was basically as useful to the group as Beth was (a liability for the most part). It reminded me of Dale's death in season 2, just tacked on for convenience. One zombie or even two should not be a threat to people that have survived as long as they have. They are lumbering, stupid, slow and loud (well except when they activate ninja mode).

Hardly a major turn when a weak supporting character dies either. Yeah, Herschel, the Governor, Lori, those were major deaths that had long lasting impacts. Tyrese? Meh. He was an awesome character in the comics, but basically weak and useless in the show. The only person I see as being impacted by this is Sasha, another peripheral character. They also didn't really give him much back story until this episode (which was a pretty big hint that he was done for).

I also loved slicing his arm off. Yeah, that will help stop the infection, we should cut his arm off with a sword that is used to hack zombies up

Michonne was also written to be extremely out of character and irrational. The Michonne we've known so far is a warrior who knows you can never stay in one place too long. Why is she getting so upset about the rest of the group not wanting to set up camp in a walker den. She starting to crack? Doesn't suit her stoic personality. Unless they're about to change her into that, which if they are, I'm not too cracked on that decision.

Basically nothing happened for 45 minutes last night. Tyrese died, that's it, it hardly advances the plot. It's the zombie apocalypse, people are supposed to die. Honestly, Tyrese and Beth were pretty much red shirts. They're going to have to kill off someone who's actually important here soon. The last major death was Herschel.

[1stLand]

How many more episodes are they going to used the Dead Governor in?

He is dead already. Give it a rest (in peace).

That episode was terrible.

[Stranger]

Again there's only room for one black man in the group. It seems every time one is introduced the last one is killed off within a few episodes.

I am only watching now because I've invested 5 seasons of time. The writing is all over the place and the show has no direction. Just give the viewers some hint as to where this show might be heading. If not it could end up lasting 15 years of mindless wandering.

And would it be the end of the world to add even a touch of humor. Breaking Bad was a very serious show, but it used just a hint of humor in most episodes to help you get to like the characters. Right now I could really care less if any of the characters were killed off next week. And that's a shame. Buy now there should be someone to root for.

[dsavillian]

I can't say I agree with the hate for this last episode. I thought the hallucination scene was one of the 10 best scenes of the series to date. The foreshadowing in the opening sequence and the symbolism throughout were very well done. The setup to the death was kind of weak, but I have to forgive it in the shadow of the high points of the episode.

The radio broadcasts were especially fantastic. It was a great presentation of Tyreese's feelings toward what the group had to do to survive. It was a neat way to describe the group's actions from a perspective that presents them as something other than the protagonists ("then terrorizing the village by night, carrying out revenge attacks involving hacking innocents with machetes and, in some cases, setting them on fire")

The walking dead indeed


edit: the more I think about it, the more I realize that the broadcasts are describing all the horrors of the world that is, not just what Rick's group has done.

[OldDutch]

I like the perspective that the radio was about Rick's group. Tyrese right or wrong, that wasn't him. This new world wasn't him. The story said it, it had to be this way, he was uncomfortable with who he was in this new world. He wasn't meant to survive.

A lot of the episode made little sense as to what they were driving at until I turned it off and pondered it. For that I give it credit, trying to express something deeper than hack and slash. Did they totally hit the mark, not really, but I respect them trying to make the show more about he group and how they aren't all cut out to survive. The toll of living has killed them slowly and now it doesn't matter who kills anymore just that it gets done.

[dsavillian]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

I like the perspective that the radio was about Rick's group. Tyrese right or wrong, that wasn't him. This new world wasn't him. The story said it, it had to be this way, he was uncomfortable with who he was in this new world. He wasn't meant to survive.

A lot of the episode made little sense as to what they were driving at until I turned it off and pondered it. For that I give it credit, trying to express something deeper than hack and slash. Did they totally hit the mark, not really, but I respect them trying to make the show more about he group and how they aren't all cut out to survive. The toll of living has killed them slowly and now it doesn't matter who kills anymore just that it gets done.

His last line, "Turn it off," sums it up well.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Negan really needs to show up, like, next episode.

They need to put a face on their enemy, that isn't just "survival". But being that the next ep is titled "Them", perhaps we will get some introductions.

Stop talking about comic stuff in this thread. How is this not clear????

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Stop talking about comic stuff in this thread. How is this not clear????

It should be pretty clear by now, he's done this in two show threads now.

[JiriHrdina]

If he does it again I'm suspending him for the rest of this run. So that should make things real clear

[corporatejay]

I assume the big bads are those dudes who took over terminus and

[blankall]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

I like the perspective that the radio was about Rick's group. Tyrese right or wrong, that wasn't him. This new world wasn't him. The story said it, it had to be this way, he was uncomfortable with who he was in this new world. He wasn't meant to survive.

A lot of the episode made little sense as to what they were driving at until I turned it off and pondered it. For that I give it credit, trying to express something deeper than hack and slash. Did they totally hit the mark, not really, but I respect them trying to make the show more about he group and how they aren't all cut out to survive. The toll of living has killed them slowly and now it doesn't matter who kills anymore just that it gets done.

I really liked it.

Wouldn't want every episode to be like that, but it looks like they are sandwhiching it between two more action orientated episodes.

This episode really drove home how many different things kill you in a situation like the WD universe. Tyrese just flat out gave up. Like you're saying, he decided he didn't want any part of the world. Him losing himself in the pictures while he knew there was a zombie in a nearby room and then lying lifelessly as the infection took over and even after his arm was cut off was really powerful.

Really like the use of the recently dead people around. That was really well done and difficult to do without being totally cheezy.

[Aeneas]

I liked that episode also. Glenn and Rick talking was odd and painful, but other than that I enjoyed it. I am not sure what people are talking about when they say nothing happened or no plot advancement.

They learned about a possible safe place and went to check it out. Pretty much what I would expect people to do in such circumstances. It didn't turn out that well, a character I was fond of was killed as well.

Now they made a fairly large decision to go to Washington. If I a remember correctly that is quite a change for Rick. It seems to me he has lost much of his authority over the group.

I was entertained, and really that's about all I expect from a TV show. But what do I know, I liked Beth.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Aeneas

I liked that episode also. Glenn and Rick talking was odd and painful, but other than that I enjoyed it. I am not sure what people are talking about when they say nothing happened or no plot advancement.

They learned about a possible safe place and went to check it out. Pretty much what I would expect people to do in such circumstances. It didn't turn out that well, a character I was fond of was killed as well.

Now they made a fairly large decision to go to Washington. If I a remember correctly that is quite a change for Rick. It seems to me he has lost much of his authority over the group.

I was entertained, and really that's about all I expect from a TV show. But what do I know, I liked Beth.

I think we had a few characters redefine themselves. This episode was all about how the character's own brutal actions were molding them and how they were reacting to that.

Michonne is showing a more human side. She previously seemed quite at home wandering around the zombie landscape with her sword. She now desperately seems to want to get back to something civilized.

As you mentioned, Rick also seems to be redefining himself. It seems like he is relinquishing authority more than losing it. Previously his style was to make up his mind and then force his will. He seems to be realizing that he's going to be better off taking advice from others.

Like I said before, the episode makes a lot sense an interlude between destinations.