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Old 02-03-2015, 11:19 PM   #1
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Holy crap.



(switched out the video for one without the ridiculous music)

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A TransAsia Airways plane with 58 people aboard crashed into a river after hitting an elevated bridge, Sidney Lin, a Taipei city spokesman, told Focus Taiwan news. Taiwan state media reports that at least eight people died in the crash.

Rescuers rushed to the scene of the crash, where a large portion of wrecked fuselage jutted out of the shallow Keeling River. The turboprop aircraft was headed from Taipei to the island of Kinmen on the outskirts of Taiwan when it went down, the Straits Times reports.

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Old 02-03-2015, 11:31 PM   #2
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wow, that doesn't even look real.
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Old 02-03-2015, 11:34 PM   #3
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Jesus.

The tip of the wing looks like it clips that van/bus.
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Old 02-03-2015, 11:36 PM   #4
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yeah it clipped a taxi

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Old 02-03-2015, 11:38 PM   #5
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what's with the music?
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Old 02-03-2015, 11:52 PM   #6
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what's with the music?
Disturbing is what it is, when coupled with watching actual footage of a plane crash that resulted in many deaths.

I ended up muting it.
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Old 02-03-2015, 11:53 PM   #7
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yeah it clipped a taxi

Wow.
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Old 02-04-2015, 12:00 AM   #8
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That was the only video I could find at first, that wasn't from miles away. I hated the music too. I've found another now and switched it out.
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Old 02-04-2015, 12:55 AM   #9
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Amazing footage! Just mind blowing. The picture of the cab looks like an ad for how long to get his claim started. Talk about being lucky to be alive!
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Old 02-04-2015, 04:16 AM   #10
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I live less than a kilometre from the airport the plane took off from, heard all the sirens going like crazy this morning. It's 7pm now and unless you went right to the area around the river you'd never know it happened.

I saw a headline flash by on my Facebook feed that said the death toll is up to 48 with 10 survivors, but I can't find the article now...


edit: found it, CNN.com
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/24/wo...n-plane-crash/

Wait... that's the wrong plane crash... that's the same airline, but that's details from a plane crash that happened last summer.

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That's insane footage.
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Old 02-04-2015, 06:46 AM   #12
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http://avherald.com/h?article=48145bb3&opt=1

"Shortly after takeoff at 10:52L (02:52Z) the aircraft began to roll left, the crew radioed "Mayday! Mayday! Engine Flame Out!" at 10:53L with no further transmission, the aircraft reached a maximum height of about 1050 feet (corrected for QNH), lost height, struck a taxi, hit a Huangdong Boulevard Viaduct with its left wing at nearly 90 degrees of bank angle at about 10:55L (02:55Z) and impacted the water of the Keelung River near the Nankang Software Park coming to rest inverted, about 2.9nm from the end of runway 10"

Someone correct me if they think I'm right out to the lunch, but in this video you can pretty much see the exact moment the left wing decides to drop (Vmc or Vsse point?) and it's pretty much all over from there:



Also if it was indeed an engine failure, this should not be an issue for an aircraft like this, as they are designed to be able to continue to fly safely and return for a landing on one engine. Will be interesting to see what happened here and if there are other contributing factors (auto-feather failure? overweight? pilot error?) that led to this.

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A post from a pilot forum on the ATR-72's procedure for an engine failure after the V1 speed:

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Engine flame out at V1.... continue with take off (PNF checks Up-trim on live engine and autofeather on dead engine )
+ve rate of climb: Gear up, (up to this point you will be climbing with v2+5)
Acceleration altitude (500ft agl): Set alt....this meant to let speed increase
As speed reaches White bug.....set IAS on ADU, set MCT and flap to zero if normal conditions. If in icing conditions the flap will remain 15.

You note above that you will initially climb at v2+5 before climbing at White bug speed when you reach your acceleration altitude.

You had engine flame out at take off, why would you want climb to 20,000ft. You will basically climb to a safe altitude, hold somewhere for you to get some time to finish the checklist before initiating an approach. In a practical circumstance you will do a circuit if you are visual and land ASAP
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Old 02-04-2015, 07:21 AM   #14
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That's an insane video, much like the Russian one from a year ago.
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"Shortly after takeoff at 10:52L (02:52Z) the aircraft began to roll left, the crew radioed "Mayday! Mayday! Engine Flame Out!" at 10:53L with no further transmission, the aircraft reached a maximum height of about 1050 feet (corrected for QNH), lost height, struck a taxi, hit a Huangdong Boulevard Viaduct with its left wing at nearly 90 degrees of bank angle at about 10:55L (02:55Z) and impacted the water of the Keelung River near the Nankang Software Park coming to rest inverted, about 2.9nm from the end of runway 10"

Someone correct me if they think I'm right out to the lunch, but in this video you can pretty much see the exact moment the left wing decides to drop (Vmc or Vsse point?) and it's pretty much all over from there:



Also if it was indeed an engine failure, this should not be an issue for an aircraft like this, as they are designed to be able to continue to fly safely and return for a landing on one engine. Will be interesting to see what happened here and if there are other contributing factors (auto-feather failure? overweight? pilot error?) that led to this.
It is hard to tell but almost looks like dual engine failure.
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Old 02-04-2015, 08:40 AM   #16
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Even if it was dual it should be able to glide, something went terribly wrong.
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Old 02-04-2015, 08:45 AM   #17
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Yeah it can glide, but if you lose both engines that low you run out of altitude really fast and trying to make any turns will bleed that airspeed and lead to a stall on the upper wing pretty fast.
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Don't think they were really going fast enough to generate enough lift to glide anywhere safe. I imagine the pilot took the hard bank to ditch it into the river as opposed to a level landing into a building. Probably saved a good few lives.
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Old 02-04-2015, 08:48 AM   #19
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That "hard bank" was most likely not pilot initiated, that is the left wing stalling and dropping hard.

When the plane is barely clearing that building you see some left bank occurring, most likely that was initiated by the pilot flying, but with the nose up the airspeed was probably bleeding off fast and then you see the wing stall and drop down.
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yeah it clipped a taxi

Imagine trying to deal with an insurance adjuster without the video evidence that you were hit by a plane...
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