01-30-2015, 07:41 PM
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#201
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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I'm pretty open minded, and generally take a wait and see attitude with most moves. But after being at that Buffalo game, stay the hell away from Chris Stewart.
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01-30-2015, 07:48 PM
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#202
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by MattyC
I'm pretty open minded, and generally take a wait and see attitude with most moves. But after being at that Buffalo game, stay the hell away from Chris Stewart.
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I'm not sold on this move at all as it is... but I find this particular comment odd seeing as Stewert was one of Buffalo's better players against us the other night and he scored.
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01-30-2015, 08:01 PM
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#203
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
I'm not sold on this move at all as it is... but I find this particular comment odd seeing as Stewert was one of Buffalo's better players against us the other night and he scored.
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Almost had two, if he wasn't robbed.
MattC, being at the game, probably means his play from away from the puck. Something you can't notice on TV.
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01-30-2015, 10:15 PM
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#204
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Draft Pick
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if we can get him cheap i'd say he's worth a spin. signing him as more than a rental all hinges on hartley's ability to motivate. he's big. and can be mean. something we might want when we hit the playoffs and the level of nasty steps up.
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01-30-2015, 10:22 PM
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#205
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Central CA
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
I'm not sold on this move at all as it is... but I find this particular comment odd seeing as Stewert was one of Buffalo's better players against us the other night and he scored.
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I remember thinking he had a pretty bad game in spite of scoring. With this rumor that won't go away I was watching him pretty closely every time he took a shift.
It was a nice deflection though.
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01-30-2015, 10:30 PM
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#206
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Franchise Player
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I don't have any idea what is CP fascinations in acquiring players that are not wanted by their team due to bad contract or bad attitudes. Alexander Semin, Mike Richards, Chris Stewart and others. Yet, they are not happy with Flames player with big contract like Wideman, or Glencross, who's been accused of being lazy, disinterested and whatever else bad words you can think of. I just don't get it.
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01-31-2015, 12:31 AM
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#207
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I have a handful of close friends who are legitimate diehard Avs fans (disproportionate when you consider the population here) and one who is probably the most dedicated Blues fan (much confused) in the history of sports. As a result, Stewart was on my radar for a long time as someone we could possibly snag on the upswing as a key complimentary piece to a strong Flames squad. Didn't happen, and I could never explain why I had this relentless feeling he would be more than he had shown. That never happened either.. And I'm pretty confident that I made one of my classic and often (always) devastating "horrible judge of character and potential" blunders. At least this time it wasn't a relationship. The whole reclamation strategy needs to stop, unless serious assets coming back are part of the deal. Not gonna happen here, so I feel we should move on
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01-31-2015, 01:10 AM
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#208
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Crash and Bang Winger
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no deal
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01-31-2015, 06:38 AM
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#210
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Castle Rock, Colorado
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I remember him as and Av, he went into the corner with Regehr, and all hell broke loose. Regehr took a solid whoopin. Had to get stitches in the top of his head from Stewart punching him.
I'd rather see some of our younger guys take that role than see Stewart, too many other teams have given up on him.
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01-31-2015, 07:59 AM
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#211
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by OzSome
I don't have any idea what is CP fascinations in acquiring players that are not wanted by their team due to bad contract or bad attitudes. Alexander Semin, Mike Richards, Chris Stewart and others. Yet, they are not happy with Flames player with big contract like Wideman, or Glencross, who's been accused of being lazy, disinterested and whatever else bad words you can think of. I just don't get it.
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CP isn't fascinated with Stewart. But according to reputable sources, the Flames are very much interested in him (and made an offer for Richards). If that's true, may as well discuss the possibility.
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01-31-2015, 08:38 AM
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#212
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Franchise Player
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Let's examine his situation actually:
10-11: He comes over in the trade, puts up 23 points in 26 games. Gets the ice-time, around 18 minutes a night. In colorado, he'd scored 30 points in 36 games. I'd say good season point-wise.
11-12: Starts off around 17-18 minutes a night but sees his time reduce to 14-15 minutes as the season goes on. Ends up in the dog house and plays 4th line minutes in the playoffs. Puts up only 30 points in 79 games. Bad season for him.
12-13: Lockout season, leads the Blues with 36 points in 48 games playing 16 minutes a night. Good productive season.
13-14: In St. Loo puts up 26 points in 58 games playing roughly 13 minutes a night. From the 3rd line, that is not bad imo. In Buffalo, plays 5 games,gets injured, calls it a season. He was one of the pieces that went over in Miller trade to St. Loo. Blues had a lot of good players this season. He never got a chance to play top 6 consistently this season in St. Loo.
14-15: The Sabres as whole stink. Stewart is 8th amongst forwards in ice-time. Can he better? of course but the situation in Buffalo is ####ty, he knows he's gonna be a UFA, really doesn't have any to play with so would you care?
I think 11-12 season was a bad one for him. This season the only motivation he has is from his upcoming UFA status. He's an enigma. He can be so much better and it's up to him.
After that analysis, if he can be had for cheap and put on a line with Gaudreau or Monahan or Hudler. I think he can helpful and create space for our guys and revive his career.
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01-31-2015, 09:12 AM
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#213
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Da_Chief
Let's examine his situation actually:
10-11: He comes over in the trade, puts up 23 points in 26 games. Gets the ice-time, around 18 minutes a night. In colorado, he'd scored 30 points in 36 games. I'd say good season point-wise.
11-12: Starts off around 17-18 minutes a night but sees his time reduce to 14-15 minutes as the season goes on. Ends up in the dog house and plays 4th line minutes in the playoffs. Puts up only 30 points in 79 games. Bad season for him.
12-13: Lockout season, leads the Blues with 36 points in 48 games playing 16 minutes a night. Good productive season.
13-14: In St. Loo puts up 26 points in 58 games playing roughly 13 minutes a night. From the 3rd line, that is not bad imo. In Buffalo, plays 5 games,gets injured, calls it a season. He was one of the pieces that went over in Miller trade to St. Loo. Blues had a lot of good players this season. He never got a chance to play top 6 consistently this season in St. Loo.
14-15: The Sabres as whole stink. Stewart is 8th amongst forwards in ice-time. Can he better? of course but the situation in Buffalo is ####ty, he knows he's gonna be a UFA, really doesn't have any to play with so would you care?
I think 11-12 season was a bad one for him. This season the only motivation he has is from his upcoming UFA status. He's an enigma. He can be so much better and it's up to him.
After that analysis, if he can be had for cheap and put on a line with Gaudreau or Monahan or Hudler. I think he can helpful and create space for our guys and revive his career.
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Good analysis, always liked Chris Stewart's power game. Nobody can thrive in Buffalo's environment, so it's hard to fault him for underachieving. I would rather have him in the lineup than David Jones.
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01-31-2015, 09:54 AM
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#214
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cgy
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I would rather have him then the following:
Byron, stajan, jones, Raymond, colborne.
He brings grit, and can finish. We have the rest of the season to evaluate his character. If he works out we have a 20-30 goals a season winger, who can fight and play in the corners. If not you let him walk and we lose what? Reinhart? Jooris, wolf both passed him this year with Sven and granlund also ahead of him... So who cares.
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01-31-2015, 10:00 AM
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#215
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Dienasty
I would rather have him then the following:
Byron, stajan, jones, Raymond, colborne.
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So what you're saying is you would have preferred we had Stewart first, and then picked up Byron, Stajan, Jones, Raymond, and Colborne?
Me personally, I'd rather have Stewart than any of those guys.
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01-31-2015, 10:06 AM
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#216
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Originally Posted by Dienasty
I would rather have him then the following:
Byron, stajan, jones, Raymond, colborne.
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But he plays on the right side, so who's spot would he take? Jones I guess? And there is zero chance I'd move Colborne out to make room for Stewart, Colborne is still a young guy who is a big body that can play wing or center, he's a pretty valuable piece right now.
That being said, I had no idea Stewart was making 4.1 this season, that kind of surprises me. He's a UFA after the season so the asking price shouldn't be too high. If the Flames phone around and do some due diligence and find out the character issues with him are overblown I'm warming up to the idea of trading for him. The Flames can use a RW, and they can also use a big body who can hang in the slot on the PP and score some goals. If they bring him in and he flops you sit him and let him go in the offseason. Looks like a low risk/high reward player to me, as long as there isn't a negative impact to the team in regards to his character/chemistry off ice.
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01-31-2015, 10:24 AM
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#217
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I still say pick him up if the cost is minimal. Gives us size against the Ducks, Kings, Blues etc
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01-31-2015, 10:36 AM
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#218
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Scoring Winger
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The only context in which it makes sense for the Flames to acquire Stewart is if we're trading guys like Glencross and Jones and need a placeholder to give us size on the wings. Otherwise, I don't see how you can justify keeping a guy like Wolf (who has done everything asked of him) in the AHL or in the pressbox only to give Chris Stewart his 100th chance.
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01-31-2015, 11:01 AM
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#219
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Franchise Player
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^ For one they play different sides.
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01-31-2015, 11:11 AM
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#220
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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We need to move a roster player for him. And honestly, they can take Raymond. Have not been impressed with him and do not want him for 2 more seasons after this.
Stewart brings a big body, and if he doesn't pan out, it was only for 20 games of the season. It also gives us a roster spot for prospects next year if we don't resign him.
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