Winnipeg Most Racist City in Canada - Maclean's

[Azure]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Right now 'we' are handing billions over to an utterly corrupt badly run system that not only doesn't do the majority of the band any good but actively encourages the ruling families to make the res less liveable to the other families, after all dividing up the money up among less band members means they get more each.

Like I said, there are lots of people on the outside of the system looking in who are not willing to make the tough choices to abolish the reserve system and get the aboriginal community back into normal society.

Mostly because its racist to suggest we should be doing something else than classing them as second tier citizens. Or something like that.

God knows why we think the current model is anything BUT racist.

[FlamesAddiction]

I have several native friends and a couple that have been life-long friends since we were kids. One thing is for certain is that the ones that manage to leave the reserve are doing much better for themselves and are much happier. I have seen enough to know that that the reserve system benefits no one in the long run.

I would love to see a land swap offered to any First Nations communities that desire it. Promote resettlement to less remote locations where real job and entrepreneurial opportunities exist.

Now granted, that doesn't solve all the problems in Winnipeg as Winnipeg isn't a "remote" area and a lot of natives have moved there from the reserve and are still a step behind, but the conditions are still better than the alternative. And I know it isn't PC to say it, but a lot of the problems are self-inflicted at this point. In those cases, there isn't much anyone can do.

[Azure]

Winnipeg and Manitoba in general aren't blessed with the oil industry who can offer a lot of employment for someone who doesn't have post secondary or even high school.

I went to school with many aboriginal kids that chose to go to school in a public non aboriginal school. Many still struggled, but more of them did a lot better.

Interestingly enough, it wasn't that hard. Even if you lived the reserve the bus could still pick you up and take you to the public non aboriginal schools. Cost was something like $110/year.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Hold on, I'm supposed to provide a link to something I think doesn't exist?

The ignorance, and arrogance, present in this post on multiple levels is stunning.

I obviously don't have enough crayons to explain it to you.

Racism exists on every level. Saying it doesn't exist against all races, including caucasian, is ignorance at its finest. It's obvious you live in a bubble.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Muta

The ignorance, and arrogance, present in this post on multiple levels is stunning.

I obviously don't have enough crayons to explain it to you.

Racism exists on every level. Saying it doesn't exist against all races, including caucasian, is ignorance at its finest. It's obvious you live in a bubble.

Seems to be the opposite of white privilege. White guilt? What an outrageous statement that racism against white people doesn't exist.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Azure

Like I said, there are lots of people on the outside of the system looking in who are not willing to make the tough choices to abolish the reserve system and get the aboriginal community back into normal society.

Mostly because its racist to suggest we should be doing something else than classing them as second tier citizens. Or something like that.

God knows why we think the current model is anything BUT racist.

The current model is built on treaties signed in what can really only be considered a different world. It isn't just people "on the outside of the system" that need to be convinced, but those on the inside as well. In between, we have a couple centuries of mutual distrust - particularly (and deservedly) on the native side - and a "ruling class" on the reserves that certainly would fight tooth and nail against cutting off the gravy train. And god only knows how many other interests looking to profit, re-purpose or undermine any attempts at changes.

[karl262]

I wonder what would have happened to the reserve situation had Quebec separated.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Muta

The ignorance, and arrogance, present in this post on multiple levels is stunning.

I obviously don't have enough crayons to explain it to you.

Racism exists on every level. Saying it doesn't exist against all races, including caucasian, is ignorance at its finest. It's obvious you live in a bubble.

And this has what to do with the topic of this thread?

Coming in here and saying "any race is capable of racism" is irrelevant to the issues that native people have faced in this country for generations.
What part of marginalized minority do you not understand?

You should start a thread about systemic racism against the white majority of Canada and see how far that gets you.

No one is arguing against the fact that anyone is capable of racism. Its when that racism can become widespread,prominent and ingrained enough to actually cause damage to another race as a whole, that it becomes an issue that starts to get studied and written about.

[Street Pharmacist]

Poor white people

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by Igottago

And this has what to do with the topic of this thread?

Coming in here and saying "any race is capable of racism" is irrelevant to the issues that native people have faced in this country for generations.
What part of marginalized minority do you not understand?

You should start a thread about systemic racism against the white majority of Canada and see how far that gets you.

No one is arguing against the fact that anyone is capable of racism. Its when that racism can become widespread,prominent and ingrained enough to actually cause damage to another race as a whole, that it becomes an issue that starts to get studied and written about.

Racism should not be acceptable at any level.

[fatso]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Poor white people

They're really the victim here. The article failing to address this is further proof of the discrimination they face..

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by fatso

They're really the victim here. The article failing to address this is further proof of the discrimination they face..

I'm sure glad it was brought up

[jayswin]

The other day I was at a gas station, the following happened;

A Filipino man walked up to the till first, followed by me. The Filipino cashier helped the other Filipino first. I presume being white used to be awesome, but now a days it's like we're not even treated like we're better than other races in all situations. It's tough being white in the 21st century.

[Jets4Life]

A radio DJ (Wheeler) from Winnipeg had the author of the article in question (from Vancouver), on his radio show. He proceeds to chew her into pieces. She contradicts herself in almost every sentence, and Wheeler wastes no time taking her to task for it. She comes off as a simpleton, who has no idea what she is talking about. She failed to mention a number of things, including the woman who was harassed sexually in the article was harassed by ab ABORIGINAL male. She also fails to mention that of the 3 mayoral candidates with the most votes, two have Native ancestry. Winnipeg obviously has it's share of problems with race, but singling the city out as the most racist place in Canada is ridiculous.

F##k Vancouver. At least we don't riot after losing NHL playoff games, and ignore mainly Aboriginal prostitutes, who had been disappearing for over a decade on East Hastings, while many knew or at least suspected who the killer was. Vancouver writers should know better than not to throw rocks, when they live in glass houses.

https://soundcloud.com/dave-wheeler/...nald-interview

This is a must listen for anyone who is remotely interested in the article.

[Muta]

So, just so I can get on board with the opinions in this thread and really make an effort to change my tune, there's no racism at all towards white people? Anywhere? This is really eye-opening to me.

Just want my new alliance of friends to confirm this, first. I'm at 99% right now, but I need the 'gated community bubble club' present here to give me the extra little push to reach 100%. C'mon guys, make the final push.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Muta

So, just so I can get on board with the opinions in this thread and really make an effort to change my tune, there's no racism at all towards white people? Anywhere? This is really eye-opening to me.

Just want my new alliance of friends to confirm this, first. I'm at 99% right now, but I need the 'gated community bubble club' present here to give me the extra little push to reach 100%. C'mon guys, make the final push.

Is that really what you gathered or did you just feel the need to be dramatic?

[Muta]

Originally Posted by nik-

Is that really what you gathered or did you just feel the need to be dramatic?

You are on the internet, so approach with caution.

I'd like to know what's getting everyone's panties in a knot. That's all.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Muta

You are on the internet, so approach with caution.

I'd like to know what's getting everyone's panties in a knot. That's all.

Racism against Caucasians does happen. Just look at Zimbabwe and the farms situation.

Of course incidents are not as prevalent in this world, but it does happen. I agree with you. Every race suffers racism, with varying amounts and to different degrees.

[Muta]

Careful Ozy, you just posted a real-life and relevant example, but it doesn't relate to the article or the associated discussion that naturally goes with it. Duck and cover, you're completely out of line.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Racism against Caucasians does happen. Just look at Zimbabwe and the farms situation.

Of course incidents are not as prevalent in this world, but it does happen. I agree with you. Every race suffers racism, with varying amounts and to different degrees.

It even happens on reserves. I used to work up north and we would often get hired for jobs on reserves. We used to have our stuff vandalized, we would get verbally and physically assaulted. It got so bad, that the company wouldn't let us stay there any more. And they were very open about it being because we were white. They get away with types of racism that if a white organization tried to pull, it would never be tolerated.