[GDT] NHL All Star Game: Johnny and Gio Show. 3pm CBC

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I always feel bad for the goalies at these games. It just doesn't make sense for them to try too hard so they just end up looking silly.

I do think that the old conference versus conference format produced a better competition as there seemed to still be a desire to show up the other team.

I agree. The new format truly gets the least out of the players. At least with the Conference format there is a bit of a rivalry and some pride on the line. North America vs the world is even better.

[taxbuster]

Thank goodness I'm in Arizona right now and couldn't watch any of it (assuming there was actually a TV station showing it....).

[SebC]

nm, fits better in a different thread

[Mr.Coffee]

So was there nobody from Colorado? Seemed weird they didn't have anyone unless I'm missing something.

I think the event is terrible if they aren't going to hustle at least a little bit. Fail to see how putting a pep in your step will automatically get you injured but there are apologists for everything.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

So was there nobody from Colorado? Seemed weird they didn't have anyone unless I'm missing something.

I think the event is terrible if they aren't going to hustle at least a little bit. Fail to see how putting a pep in your step will automatically get you injured but there are apologists for everything.

Erik Johnson was their representative this year but dropped out due to injury.

[Trailer Fire]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Thank goodness I'm in Arizona right now and couldn't watch any of it (assuming there was actually a TV station showing it....).

Because not watching it when its available to you is so difficult.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

So was there nobody from Colorado? Seemed weird they didn't have anyone unless I'm missing something.

Erik Johnson was supposed to be there but got hurt. Same reason there were no Red Wings, Jimmy Howard was hurt.

[Phanuthier]

How did Johnny do? Looks like Gio had a quiet but good game?

(I know the game doesn't really matter, just curious)

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Fire

I only saw one highlight and I could tell from those 10 seconds that the game was an embarrassment to the NHL and hockey in general. The all-star game never had great intensity, but it was much better in the 80's when at least you saw some effort. The only way to fix the All-Star game would be to put up some serious money to the winning team. Something like $10 million to the winning team and $0 to the losing team. Otherwise they should just cancel it.

Yeah, I do wonder why the intensity is dramatically lower than it was 20-30 years ago - which wasn't exactly high to begin with. Presumably with so much more money involved today, nobody wants to exert even an NHL practice level of effort out of fear of injury.

The thing that gets me is the more or less complete lack of effort on the part of the goalies. You could put a circa 1989 Mike Vernon in net - tiny, unathletic Mike Vernon wearing tiny equipment and hung over from the all star weekend festivities - and he puts on a better performance than any of the goalies today.

Maybe they should ditch the goalies altogether and just have targets or something.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

How did Johnny do? Looks like Gio had a quiet but good game?

(I know the game doesn't really matter, just curious)

couple nice assists, made some good plays

honestly the game was so half assed (even for an allstar game) its hard to say anyone did bad or good

[Geeoff]

I think the best All-star games are the ones in Olympic years, where they name the team but don't play the game.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Yeah, I do wonder why the intensity is dramatically lower than it was 20-30 years ago - which wasn't exactly high to begin with. Presumably with so much more money involved today, nobody wants to exert even an NHL practice level of effort out of fear of injury.

The thing that gets me is the more or less complete lack of effort on the part of the goalies. You could put a circa 1989 Mike Vernon in net - tiny, unathletic Mike Vernon wearing tiny equipment and hung over from the all star weekend festivities - and he puts on a better performance than any of the goalies today.

Maybe they should ditch the goalies altogether and just have targets or something.

I think the regular season 20-30 years ago was slower so the all-star game couldn't be that much slower. In a real game in 1984 players skated around and had 2+ minute shifts. All Star game was a collection of great stars playing pretty much the same.

Hockey today is so fast. 40 second shifts, skate skate skate, cycle cycle cycle, line change, skate skate skate. It's insane. So when they dipsy doodle in the all star game today, it looks a lot slower then the norm.

[GioforPM]

I remember, though, Mike Vernon getting lit up really badly in an ASG.

[dino7c]

there is an classic all star game on sportsnet right now and the compete level is way higher than what we saw today

[Igottago]

I have enjoyed all star games in the past, but that was the worst all-star weekend I've ever seen. Everything seemed pretty pointless and seemed like going through the motions. Even the commentators and TV presenters seem to be grasping at straws to explain how "special" this weekend was.

I don't see the point in televising a bunch of highly skilled hockey players pretty much do everything they can not to play the game of hockey, even though they have equipment on. I get it, they don't want injuries. But I've seen more intense pond hockey.

I have no need to watch NHL players on vacation.

[t0rrent98]

nvm

[Hugh Jahrmes]

Not sure why so many adults are getting bent out of shape here. I loved the asg as a kid; I remember having no real team I loved more than another (didn't like the Oilers, which was basically my entire family's team, so I sort of just watched whatever else was on) and being amazed by guys like Chelios, Roenick, Sakic, Yzerman putting up wild points year after year. I can be completely honest and say that I had absolutely no appreciation for the defensive side of the game (although it was less developed then); the ASG was awesome because I saw a wack of goals. It's fun and not meant to be a serious competition. Imagine how screwed a team like Chicago could potentially be with the number of players they sent ?

[Mattman]

Sorry this came a little late but this is an interesting look at where the 2015 All-stars were taken in their draft years:

Nash- 1st Overall (2002)
Fluery- 1st Overall (2003)
Ovechkin- 1st Overall (2004)
Crosby- 1st Overall (2005)*
E.Johnson- 1st Overall (2006)*
Kane- 1st Overall (2007)
Stamkos- 1st Overall (2008)
Tavares- 1st Overall (2009)
Nugent-Hopkins- 1st Overall (2011)
Ekblad- 1st Overall (2014)
Malkin- 2nd Overall (2004)*
Ryan- 2nd Overall (2005)
Doughty- 2nd Overall (2008)
Seguin- 2nd Overall (2010)
Toews- 3rd Overall (2006)
Drouin- 3rd Overall (2013)
Luongo- 4th Overall (1997)
Johansen- 4th Overall (2010)
Price- 5th Overall (2005)
Kessel- 5th Overall (2006)
Ekman- Larsson- 6th Overall (2009)
Suter- 7th Overall (2003)
Kopitar- 11th Overall (2005)
Forsberg- 11th Overall (2012)
Shattenkirk- 14th Overall (2007)
Girgensons- 14th Overall (2012)
Seabrook- 14th Overall (2003)
Taresenko- 16th Overall (2010)
Getzlaf- 19th Overall (2003)
Foligno- 28th (2006)
Burns- 20th Overall (2003)
Giroux- 22nd Overall (2006)
Foligno- 28th (2006)
Pearson- 30th Overall (2012)*
Fualk- 37th Overall (2010)
Bergeron- 45th Overall (2003)
Weber- 49th Overall (2003)
Ellias- 51st Overall (1994)
Crawford- 52nd Overall (2003)
Kieth- 54th Overall (2002)
Howard- 64th Overall (2003)*
Gaudreau- 104th Overall (2011)
Hoffman- 130th Overall (2009)
Vrbata- 212th Overall (1999)
Byfuglien- 245th Overall (2003)
Rinne- 258th Overall (2004)*
Halak- 271st Overall (2003)
Elliot- 291st Overall (2003)**
Giordano- UNDRAFTED (2004)
Bobrovsky- UNDRAFTED (2006)*
T. Johnson- UNDRAFTED (2011)
Sekac- UNDRAFTED (2011)

*Did not play due to injury
** Worth noting Elliot was the 2nd last pick of the 2003 draft

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Mattman

Sorry this came a little late but this is an interesting look at where the 2015 All-stars were taken in their draft years:

Nash- 1st Overall (2002)
Fluery- 1st Overall (2003)
Ovechkin- 1st Overall (2004)
Crosby- 1st Overall (2005)*
E.Johnson- 1st Overall (2006)*
Kane- 1st Overall (2007)
Stamkos- 1st Overall (2008)
Tavares- 1st Overall (2009)
Nugent-Hopkins- 1st Overall (2011)
Ekblad- 1st Overall (2014)
Malkin- 2nd Overall (2004)*
Ryan- 2nd Overall (2005)
Doughty- 2nd Overall (2008)
Seguin- 2nd Overall (2010)
Toews- 3rd Overall (2006)
Drouin- 3rd Overall (2013)
Luongo- 4th Overall (1997)
Johansen- 4th Overall (2010)
Price- 5th Overall (2005)
Kessel- 5th Overall (2006)
Ekman- Larsson- 6th Overall (2009)
Suter- 7th Overall (2003)
Kopitar- 11th Overall (2005)
Forsberg- 11th Overall (2012)
Shattenkirk- 14th Overall (2007)
Girgensons- 14th Overall (2012)
Seabrook- 14th Overall (2003)
Taresenko- 16th Overall (2010)
Getzlaf- 19th Overall (2003)
Foligno- 28th (2006)
Burns- 20th Overall (2003)
Giroux- 22nd Overall (2006)
Foligno- 28th (2006)
Pearson- 30th Overall (2012)*
Fualk- 37th Overall (2010)
Bergeron- 45th Overall (2003)
Weber- 49th Overall (2003)
Ellias- 51st Overall (1994)
Crawford- 52nd Overall (2003)
Kieth- 54th Overall (2002)
Howard- 64th Overall (2003)*
Gaudreau- 104th Overall (2011)
Hoffman- 130th Overall (2009)
Vrbata- 212th Overall (1999)
Byfuglien- 245th Overall (2003)
Rinne- 258th Overall (2004)*
Halak- 271st Overall (2003)
Elliot- 291st Overall (2003)**
Giordano- UNDRAFTED (2004)
Bobrovsky- UNDRAFTED (2006)*
T. Johnson- UNDRAFTED (2011)
Sekac- UNDRAFTED (2011)

*Did not play due to injury
** Worth noting Elliot was the 2nd last pick of the 2003 draft

Every first overall pick in the last 12 years played... Except 2010 and 2012...

Who was drafted those years again? I can't seem to remember.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I remember, though, Mike Vernon getting lit up really badly in an ASG.

I use to dread Vernon playing in the all star game. He wouldn't be any good for a month afterwards.