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Old 01-12-2015, 08:10 PM   #841
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^only thing is he may go way before we step up to the podium, I have liked what I've seen so far, he certainly is handling his first year in junior. He seems to be one of the few who have jumped in the rankings. I don't see the Russian factor being an issue with him as this is his 4th year in NA already, I take that as a sign that he and his family feel his future is here and here alone.
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Old 01-15-2015, 07:45 AM   #842
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Based on what other people have been saying, rank these guys in the order of preference for the Flames pick: My personal order is below

Ivan Provorov - Excellent 2 way defence man with offensive upside

Zach Werenski - Smart, smooth skating 2 way D

Mikko Rantanen - Big Power Forward RW

Daniel Sprong - Speedy, skilled RW (reminds me a bit of Ehlers, but stockier)

Jeremy Roy - Smooth skating offensive D

Brandon Carlo - Big punishing stay at home D, mean streak

Nikita Korostelev - Pure sniper, RW

Matthew Barzal - Smart skilled center (similar build to RNH)

Nick Meloche - Similar to Carlo, a bit of an agitator too

Pavel Zacha - Strong power forward
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Old 01-15-2015, 08:12 AM   #843
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Solid list Tbull, wouldn't mind any of those guys.
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:01 AM   #844
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I would take the top two D with the edge going to Provorov, just something about this kid that makes me think he's going to be great! He is really catching the eye of the scouting services so I expect him to continue his climb up the ranks.
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I would still prefer we use 1st round picks on forwards with high end potential. Always seems to be solid Dmen selected in rounds 2-4.
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Old 01-15-2015, 10:34 AM   #846
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I would still prefer we use 1st round picks on forwards with high end potential. Always seems to be solid Dmen selected in rounds 2-4.
I feel the same way, but if you can land J. Roy/Kylington/Werenski/Provorov when it is our turn to draft, I think you do it.
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I feel the same way, but if you can land J. Roy/Kylington/Werenski/Provorov when it is our turn to draft, I think you do it.
The way Provorov is trending up it might even make sense to try to trade up. I think picking any one of those four and giving up maybe a centre prospect is worth it. Instead of having one of them fall to us if we're picking in the teens.
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Old 01-15-2015, 11:49 AM   #848
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I wasn't too impressed by Kylington at the world juniors. I could actually see Provorov going ahead of him at the draft, although the passport may make that difficult
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Old 01-15-2015, 11:52 AM   #849
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I wasn't too impressed by Kylington at the world juniors. I could actually see Provorov going ahead of him at the draft, although the passport may make that difficult
But considering that he's been over here since Bantam, I don't think that will have as much of a dampening effect as it usually does. Possibly none at all.
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Old 01-15-2015, 11:54 AM   #850
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I wasn't too impressed by Kylington at the world juniors. I could actually see Provorov going ahead of him at the draft, although the passport may make that difficult
It would have been hard to be impressed with Kylington at the world juniors. You could say he wasn't even there.
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It would have been hard to be impressed with Kylington at the world juniors. You could say he wasn't even there.
He played in the pre tournament
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Old 01-17-2015, 06:58 PM   #852
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A few lads that could be of interest to the Flames contained herewithin:

NHL Draft War Room: Year of the Q Part Deux

2015 NHL Draft War Room: Top 36 Prospects from the Q as per E-Mac

1. Svechnikov
2. Meier
3. J Roy
4. Sprong
5. Zboril


Link to the Top 36
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Old 01-18-2015, 11:05 AM   #853
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David Bustyn - scout for McKeen's Hockey
TSN 1260 - Jan 17
https://soundcloud.com/pipeline-show...-burstyn-jan17

C Mitch Marner - 5'11'' 163lbs - shoots R
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=223194
  • no concerns about his size - his brother is 6'2''.
  • has grown 5 inches since he started in the OHL
  • guys like Hudler and Eberle show you can be 5'10'' or 5'11'' with an excellent skill package and still be NHLers
  • everytime you look at the boxscore and don't see Marner have a 3 points you think he had a bad night - puts 4 or 5 points consistently
  • highly cerebal, patient, puck possession style player
  • makes and excutes plays at a high rate of speed
  • Flaming: Marner was the most impressive Knight at the Memorial cup last year. Horvat was quiet, Domi was dissapointing
  • was really good at the Ivan Hlinka and that springboarded his meteroic rise in the rankings
  • all 30 NHL teams want to get a read on him
  • McKeen's has him ranked at #4 behind McDavid, Eichel and Hanifin

On whether WJC changed opinions on McDavid, Eichel and/or Hanifin
  • thought Hanifin struggled a little bit - first time playing at that tournament
  • whole USA blue line was young, so maybe thrust into some situations that could of used more experience/leadership
  • Eichel had a hot start but the US faded
  • McDavid started off slow coming off injury and when it mattered most he picked up his game
  • McDavid has the same "superstar it quality" that Perry and Weber has
  • McDavid's stride is the most explosive Burstyn has ever seen since he started scouting
  • the stride will enable McDavid to put up more than a point per game numbers [in the NHL]
  • whichever team gets McDavid will see their fortunes turn around quicker than expected
  • no doubt McDavid will be a NHL star

LW Lawson Crouse - 6'4'' 212lbs - shoots L
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=205155
  • Crouse ranked #5 by McKeen's.
  • Crouse is a powerforward with very good hockey iq in all 3 zones - reason why Team Canada took him to the WJC
  • very versatile - he can play with better players or can play on the bottom portion of your depth chart and can still produce
  • just a big body that can command the boards down low, cycles the puck, and can make plays
  • only going to get thicker and stronger
  • scary to think how much better he can become
  • has become the cornorstone of the Kingston rebuild

C Dylan Strome - 6'3'' 187lbs - Shoots L
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=228107
  • Strome ranked #6
  • compares Strome to a Joe Thornton-esque type player - crafty skilled playmaker
  • still needs to work on his skating
  • more of an offensive guy
  • doesn't really play with physical jam
  • also doesn't play with a lot of pace - main concern with him at the NHL level
  • at junior he can pick apart defences but with the pace of the NHL....
  • still ranked high because he can manufacture offense - better than his brother (Ryan ) at the same age
  • Strome will be a point producer in the NHL but McDavid, Eichel, Hanifin, Marner and Crouse offer a little more in 3 or 4 years time in the NHL
  • Draisaitl is a little more thicker and stronger on the puck than Strome - but both very cerebal type players, make plays and suck defences to them. extra heightened hockey sense.



D Zach Werenski - 6'2'' 214lbs - Shoots L
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=186311
  • reminds of Keith Yandle
  • a player that does everything well - no real glaring deficiencies
  • very safe pick
  • had a very good WJC
  • big body 6'2'' 200lbs
  • skates well
  • good hard shot
  • Jack of all trades at the NHL level

C Nick Merkley - 5'10'' 186lbs - Shoots R
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=107894
  • has gone ahead of Barzal partially because Barzal has missed time with injury
  • very dynamic player - always moving and buzzing
  • not afraid even though he is a little undersized
  • unbelievable hands - top 3 in this draft just based on hands and what he can do with the puck
  • always moving his feet in the offensive zone and comes back to the defensive zone
  • if you can put the size aside he has the ability to go further up the rankings



on who he is looking forward to seeing at CHL top prospects game
  • D Jeremy Roy - a Letang type defenceman
  • RW Evgeny Svechnikov - really lighting it up for Cape Breton
  • LW Paul Bitner
  • LW Jake Debrusk - most excited to see. smart hockey player that oozes potential
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:32 PM   #854
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I want us to take a defenceman in the 1st round. It's getting too difficult to trade for a top young defenceman.
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Old 01-18-2015, 09:32 PM   #855
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Drool if we get Werenski.
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Old 01-18-2015, 11:05 PM   #856
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David Bustyn - scout for McKeen's Hockey
TSN 1260 - Jan 17
https://soundcloud.com/pipeline-show...-burstyn-jan17

C Dylan Strome - 6'3'' 187lbs - Shoots L
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=228107
  • Strome ranked #6
  • compares Strome to a Joe Thornton-esque type player - crafty skilled playmaker
  • still needs to work on his skating
  • more of an offensive guy
  • doesn't really play with physical jam
  • also doesn't play with a lot of pace - main concern with him at the NHL level
  • at junior he can pick apart defences but with the pace of the NHL....
  • still ranked high because he can manufacture offense - better than his brother (Ryan ) at the same age
  • Strome will be a point producer in the NHL but McDavid, Eichel, Hanifin, Marner and Crouse offer a little more in 3 or 4 years time in the NHL
  • Draisaitl is a little more thicker and stronger on the puck than Strome - but both very cerebal type players, make plays and suck defences to them. extra heightened hockey sense.
Sounds very similar to the scouting reports on Getzlaf at that age.
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Old 01-19-2015, 12:18 AM   #857
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  • whichever team gets McDavid will see their fortunes turn around quicker than expected
whichever team not named the Oilers
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Old 01-19-2015, 02:43 PM   #858
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I've been marginally hoping (only marginally, no one go crazy) to see the Oilers win a few games, so they would move up a few spots and lower they're chances at getting McDavid, but Oilers gonna Oil.

It will be awesome to see McDavid in Oilers colors for the next 10-15 years
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Old 01-19-2015, 03:30 PM   #859
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I am still hopeful that the Oilers win enough games to not pick in the top 3. Let them be stuck with either a lesser D-man or another lesser center .
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CSS midterm rankings are out
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=749011

Rankings:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=749385
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