[Trade] Oilers trade Perron to Pittsburgh for 2015 1st, Klinkhammer

[Lord Carnage]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I laugh at everyone thinking that the Oilers won this trade. Surely they could have done better than just a 2015 1st and Klinkhammer. This team doesn't have any good players, adding a pick won't change how atrocious their drafting has been.

A better trade would have been Beau Bennett and Dumoulin, they get a LW/RW who is capable of playing middle 6 minutes like Perron, and grab a defenseman prospect that is probably miles ahead better than their defenseman prospects, excluding Nurse.

I'm sure there are LOTS of better trades that us CPers can come up with... but most of us are already shaking our heads that the Oil got a 1st and Klinkhammer... I'm reasonably certain that whatever Pittsburgh management was drinking, it wasn't strong enough to make them think Bennett and Dumoulin was the better choice.

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[Matt Reeeeead]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I laugh at everyone thinking that the Oilers won this trade. Surely they could have done better than just a 2015 1st and Klinkhammer. This team doesn't have any good players, adding a pick won't change how atrocious their drafting has been.

A better trade would have been Beau Bennett and Dumoulin, they get a LW/RW who is capable of playing middle 6 minutes like Perron, and grab a defenseman prospect that is probably miles ahead better than their defenseman prospects, excluding Nurse.

No chance the Pens would include Bennett in a trade for Perron. He's a rosterable player for them with upside, and will be cheap for awhile. The type of guy that appeals to good teams too.

Competing teams want to move non essential players, prospects, or picks in deadline moves.

Bennett doesn't fit the bill.

Considering Perron is signed for next season at a manageable cap hit, I agree he had some good value. But we also see what top 6 players generally go for at the deadline when they are UFA, for example, last season nobody would give more than a 3rd round pick for Cammaleri.

The fact Perron had an extra year likely got them the upgrade from a late second/third to a first. It's certainly not a haul, but after the Erat/Forsberg fiasco (which would have been a similar asset being traded as Erat was at a similar stage in his career and contract), it seems like teams are hesitant to give up quality young assets.

It's certainly not a "haul", but I think the value is pretty consistent with what has been happening. Perron wasn't looking like a long term keeper for them, so they presumably shopped him for the best asset they could. I bet they try to use the pick to get an asset that better fits their profile right now (likely try to get a defensemen back from a not so contending team). The teams that wanted Perron wouldn't be willing to move a quality D-men, but teams wanting a 1st might be.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I laugh at everyone thinking that the Oilers won this trade. Surely they could have done better than just a 2015 1st and Klinkhammer. This team doesn't have any good players, adding a pick won't change how atrocious their drafting has been.

A better trade would have been Beau Bennett and Dumoulin, they get a LW/RW who is capable of playing middle 6 minutes like Perron, and grab a defenseman prospect that is probably miles ahead better than their defenseman prospects, excluding Nurse.

As always, real life is not a video game. I doubt very much the Penguins would have given up Bennett. Not for a guy one year away from UFA. Getting a late first rounder and body for the roster is very likely the best the Oilers could expect.

[Derek Sutton]

Perron was not exactly tearring it up this year, 5 goals... and looking to get out of town. This is seems like a good deal by Mactavish. The Oilers are bottom 3 with or without Perron, the tank has already tanked. Klinkhammer use to be a center, so he may be able to replace Drisatil should they be sending him down. Pittsburgh is certainly not affraid to trade their 1st rounders, 2 in the last three years.

[Jbo]

I would be more concerned if the Oilers scouting staff showed, even once, the ability to chose an NHL player outside of the top pick.

[Stupid]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Also, this stands as a nice shot across the bow for the other Oilers. Don't you even THINK about playing well. This tank will not be stopped.

If anything; playing well means you get traded off the team! expect many disgruntled vets to pick up their game.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by Jbo

I would be more concerned if the Oilers scouting staff showed, even once, the ability to chose an NHL player outside of the top pick.

And they can't even get the top pick right.

[Mony]

This deal is a horrible one for Edmonton when you consider how bad their drafting decisions are.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Mony

This deal is a horrible one for Edmonton when you consider how bad their drafting decisions are.

Its Perron for Klinkhammer and a kid who through poor development will never amount to much.

[Locke]

This late first rounder is clearly just so MacT can take 'Vladdy Hockey.'

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I laugh at everyone thinking that the Oilers won this trade. Surely they could have done better than just a 2015 1st and Klinkhammer. This team doesn't have any good players, adding a pick won't change how atrocious their drafting has been.

A better trade would have been Beau Bennett and Dumoulin, they get a LW/RW who is capable of playing middle 6 minutes like Perron, and grab a defenseman prospect that is probably miles ahead better than their defenseman prospects, excluding Nurse.

You think the Oilers could have done better than a 2015 1st rounder for Perron?

I know what you are saying, but the Oilers need to embrace the fact that they are still in a re-build. Not doing so would be a huge mistake. Sure it's fair to critique them for the fact that they are still re-building, but they can't just "erase" the mistakes they've made in the past that have led them here, and they can't just go "well we shouldn't be in a rebuild, so we are going to act and make trades like we aren't". That would set them back even further. Given they are the worst team in the league right now, this was a great trade for them IMO, good value for that asset.

[Robbob]

the problem is that Edmonton barely manages to develop top ten picks. A late first in that organization probably doesn't play in Edmonton until after hall, rnh, and eberle are ufa. They need NHL bodies not magic beans. It is laughable that not even at the 40 game mark they are throwing the season away for a 30% chance on McDavid. I hope they finish second last and a team leap frogs the oilers at the lottery. I am sure the video of MacTavish would be pretty similar to the one from the loss to the jets earlier this season.

[stemit14]

They were afraid to make this trade a month ago for fear it might spark the team. They make it now in hopes of killing any momentum built up over the last few games. The tank is on.

Getting a first round pick is decent but you know they didn't get any of what they needed and Pittsburgh had plenty of... Young, properly developed defencemen. The oilers will ruin any late round pick they draft anyways. They shouldn't be gathering picks cause they are incapable of proper development. They should instead be targeting players other teams have already developed the right way who are knocking on the door to be NHLers if they aren't NHLers already.

[codynw]

Perron for Klinkhammer, McDavid and a 1st? What a great trade for Edmonton.

[Robo]

i don't think mactavish is smart enough to use this pick to get defensive help my guess is he will write first round pick on a piece of paper insert it in the lineup and have it play on the top defensive pairing with justin shultz

[Erick Estrada]

That's a great return for Perron. However it's going to be a late first round pick and the Oilers absolutely stink at picking players outside of the top 15 so it's probably going to end up Perron for a Mitch Moroz type player in the long run as there's a good chance Klinkhammer will be better than the player they pick.

You would have to think the Flames could have got the same sort of deal from them for Glencross however I would think the Flames will wait until the trade deadline so they can assess their playoff possibilities much better.

[Poe969]

This is just pathetic. I'm happy for Perron but at what point do other teams start to get upset over the oilers clearly tanking?

I just hope somehow at least one team finishes below the oilers and then a different team (Flames) wins the lottery and the oil finish with a pick no higher than 3.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Robbob

the problem is that Edmonton barely manages to develop top ten picks. A late first in that organization probably doesn't play in Edmonton until after hall, rnh, and eberle are ufa. They need NHL bodies not magic beans. It is laughable that not even at the 40 game mark they are throwing the season away for a 30% chance on McDavid. I hope they finish second last and a team leap frogs the oilers at the lottery. I am sure the video of MacTavish would be pretty similar to the one from the loss to the jets earlier this season.

Absolutely. Managements entire plan for the future of this team is to draft McDavid/Eichel. They have absolutely no idea what to do if they don't get either of them. None.

That's why I pray to the hockey gods that they finish 3rd last and lose the lottery to someone above them in the standings so they end up drafting 4th overall. Oiler fans will lose their minds and it will be glorious.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Mony

This deal is a horrible one for Edmonton when you consider how bad their drafting decisions are.

I agree that the scouts have done a horrible job, but you don't say no to a 1st for Perron. Edmonton needs to hire a new scouting staff and replace management , but in no way should they start saying no to 1sts. If they start saying no to picks, they are never going to be able to trade anybody.