The knock on Petan at the time was his size, but its not like Klimchuk was a giant or much bigger than him.
To be honest Petan has looked like a stud during preseason, and the remainder of his time with the Portland Winterhawks and has looked awesome playing for Canada.
On the other hand, Klimchuk has been a disappointment almost on every level and got cut from Canadian juniors team.
I don't care what the reason....size..linemates...whatever....you dont leave the guy sitting there with a 44 point advantage....which i think were tops or top 3 in the WHL that year....on the table...
Its not even like they played in different leagues....they were in the same bloody league....this decision baffled my mind at that time....how can you not draft petan at #28..
I know that some of you are going to say there were 14 other teams that passed on him before the Jets took him....but those teams didnt draft out of the WHL...so they could have their own reasoning...
Flames were the last team to draft from the WHL...and they passed on him.
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Eeesh. Dropping the ax kind of early on Klimchuk no?
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With Petan still on the board, the Flames decided to pick Klimchuk and he's turning into a real plug.
I cannot believe this is serious.
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On the other hand, Klimchuk has been a disappointment almost on every level and got cut from Canadian juniors team.
This is such an exageration it's borderline insane. Every level? U-17? U-18? Both successful. Had an excellent super series.
Let's not sugar coat the fact also that Portland is a veritable super power yearly in the WHL. Filled to the brim with first rounders every year. Petan is good and no slight on him but he's consistently been surrounded with better line mates throughout his junior career. Whereas Regina? There pretty much been Klimchuk. Over a ppg so far this year and has 10 less GP than the team mates ahead of him.
Cut the kid some slack here. He will be the Pats leading scorer by the end of the season if he stays there.
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Ah yes just think of where we would be today if we had Petan. Now is definately a good time to make a final judgment. Klimchuck the bumb is so bad that he was in a position to get cut from team Canada what a plug.
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I wouldnt be too focused on who is the better junior scorer. There are so many things that allow players to look high-end in junior but just don't translate to the pro game. Likewise, many things other then scoring can be developed that make a kid able to play in the NHL but you'll never see that on the stats line.
Give them time to see how it shakes out once they're done in junior. Remember, lots of talents WJC players go nowhere.
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I wouldn't say Klimchuk is turning into a plug. I mean he was still inviting to the camp.
That said - he's not looking like a great prospect at this point. I know that will get some up in arms who stand by 1st round picks until the Flames cut them loose, but with his point production in junior its hard to see more than a 3rd line guy in the NHL at this point.
He was progressing ok up until this year where he's taken a step back and his injuries don't help.
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The knock on Petan at the time was his size, but its not like Klimchuk was a giant or much bigger than him.
To be honest Petan has looked like a stud during preseason, and the remainder of his time with the Portland Winterhawks and has looked awesome playing for Canada.
On the other hand, Klimchuk has been a disappointment almost on every level and got cut from Canadian juniors team.
I don't care what the reason....size..linemates...whatever....you dont leave the guy sitting there with a 44 point advantage....which i think were tops or top 3 in the WHL that year....on the table...
Its not even like they played in different leagues....they were in the same bloody league....this decision baffled my mind at that time....how can you not draft petan at #28..
I know that some of you are going to say there were 14 other teams that passed on him before the Jets took him....but those teams didnt draft out of the WHL...so they could have their own reasoning...
Flames were the last team to draft from the WHL...and they passed on him.
This post isn't premature at all. Nope, not one little bit.
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I wouldn't say Klimchuk is turning into a plug. I mean he was still inviting to the camp.
That said - he's not looking like a great prospect at this point. I know that will get some up in arms who stand by 1st round picks until the Flames cut them loose, but with his point production in junior its hard to see more than a 3rd line guy in the NHL at this point.
He was progressing ok up until this year where he's taken a step back and his injuries don't help.
It doesn't help that he is pretty much the Iginla deal, which itself is the culmination of a long line of successful trading. A lot of people are going to hang their hats on him.
It's obviously way too early to give up on him, but I was never really excited about the pick. He seems like if he is going to make it, it will have to be as a hard working character type of player - likely a bottom 6. Given where he was drafted, that actually would be OK, but like I said, he has the fortune of being the return for the best player in franchise history. However unfair, that will be in the back of some minds while he develops.
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That said - he's not looking like a great prospect at this point. I know that will get some up in arms who stand by 1st round picks until the Flames cut them loose, but with his point production in junior its hard to see more than a 3rd line guy in the NHL at this point.
I'm not sure Klimchuk was ever projected to be more than a 3rd line guy. My concern is he's another Max Reinhart - a guy who simply doesn't have the size, speed, or skill level to displace a legitimate NHLer.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
I'm not sure Klimchuk was ever projected to be more than a 3rd line guy. My concern is he's another Max Reinhart - a guy who simply doesn't have the size, speed, or skill level to displace a legitimate NHLer.
He may not be lights out, but it's a little premature to say he doesn't have any of the above qualities. We're enamoured with this tournament, and I'm a little disappointed he didn't make the team, but in no way does this eliminate him from being a legit prospect.
Petan always had the higher upside but Klimchuk is going to be a utility player that can play on any line and in any situation without looking bad. Plus he is a local kid which fits our rebuild
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Hilarious that a team with Giordano, Wideman, Glencross etc etc is calling a kid a bust based on his Junior numbers before he's even 20. you'd think they'd know better.
Hilarious that a team with Giordano, Wideman, Glencross etc etc is calling a kid a bust based on his Junior numbers before he's even 20. you'd think they'd know better.
Giordano and Wideman both had very good junior numbers (Glencross was an NCAA player). Wideman in particular was a PPG guy as defenseman.
Hilarious that a team with Giordano, Wideman, Glencross etc etc is calling a kid a bust based on his Junior numbers before he's even 20. you'd think they'd know better.
Also interesting that the very same flames fan is proclaiming Petan a can't miss prospect when our very own baerstchi had the same gaudy numbers in portland, is bigger than Petan, and has clearly struggled to find himself in the NHL 4 season after his draft year.
The flames liked both Petan and Klimchuk, in fact I seem to remember that the flames invited 4 players to calgary for post-combine meetings amd testing....monahan, porier, klimchuk and petan. They obviously drafted 3 of the 4 and likely would have drafted Petan if they had an additional pick.
No reason to roast the flames at this poiny. They liked both, drafted one of them and its far too early to know which will translate better to the nhl 2-3 years from now
