[Rumour] Friedman: Flames looking at Chris Stewart

[#-3]

Originally Posted by CSharp

The only way the Flames trade Reinhart to Buffalo is if the return package includes their 2015 first round pick.

To Buffalo:
Reinhart + Baertschi + Stajan + one of(Setoguchi or Bollig)

To Calgary:
Chris Stewart + 2015 First Round pick + non-top 4 big d-man (that can skate, preferably)

Git the truck going, Tre!

You know the Flames have Max Reinhart not Sam right?

Even if it were Sam, Still.

A Top 6 forward, about a 50% chance at "generational tallent" (1st of 2nd OA), and an NHL dman

for

a B rate prospect, an up and down 1 dimensional prospect winger, a 3rd/4th line center and some pressbox bait.

Sorry to the Sven fans just looking a Buffalo prospective.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by CSharp

The only way the Flames trade Reinhart to Buffalo is if the return package includes their 2015 first round pick.

To Buffalo:
Reinhart + Baertschi + Stajan + one of(Setoguchi or Bollig)

To Calgary:
Chris Stewart + 2015 First Round pick + non-top 4 big d-man (that can skate, preferably)

Git the truck going, Tre!

Lol.

You know Buffalo's first round pick is one of the most high value draft picks in the NHL right now. I wouldn't even do this if it was the St.Louis or NYI first rounder we have. Max Reinhart + junk for a top 5/probably top 3 pick, man some fans get delusional about their own prospects/players. That doesn't even happen in a bad draft year, let alone this one.

[Imported_Aussie]

If this trade happens, Flames picking up Stewart, it will have to involve 2 of the 15 forwards on the roster now - otherwise it just creates more of a logjam than the Flames already have.
This team needs defence or forwards who will provide a big upgrade. Stewart is neither. If he could be acquired with a prospect adding value, then it is worth considering, but Buffalo have no reason to trade a prospect to jettison Stewart, unless they really want one of the Flames prospects in a swap

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Max Reinhart + junk for a top 5/probably top 3 pick, man some fans get delusional about their own prospects/players. That doesn't even happen in a bad draft year, let alone this one.

To be fair, he neglected to mention that the trade would have to happen now for it to make sense to the Sabres.

[GettinIggyWithIt]

Originally Posted by Imported_Aussie

If this trade happens, Flames picking up Stewart, it will have to involve 2 of the 15 forwards on the roster now - otherwise it just creates more of a logjam than the Flames already have.
This team needs defence or forwards who will provide a big upgrade. Stewart is neither. If he could be acquired with a prospect adding value, then it is worth considering, but Buffalo have no reason to trade a prospect to jettison Stewart, unless they really want one of the Flames prospects in a swap

Agree. I wouldn't be against getting Stewart and hoping that he might be an upgrade given our depth on RW. His value should be low and he is a big RW which is what the Flames need. But, the price would have to make sense. The most the Flames should be willing to give up is a RW from their current roster plus a B/C level prospect. Stewart shouldn't have enough value to create a bidding war but the Sabres have been very good at getting premium or above market value for their players so that worries me...

Sounds like the Pens are in on it too. Maybe we can convince them to take Jones instead ? Comeau seems to have worked out ok for them.

[mile]

I think CSharp was joking in his proposal.

[Locke]

I really dont want Rene Bourque's long lost brother.

[Vinny01]

I can see why several teams are interested. 26 year old 6'2 230lb winger that has scored 28 on 2 occasions. He is Rene Bourque all over again but younger. With how he has struggled the vultures are circling saying they can take him off the Sabres hands. There is no bidding war here I am guessing the Sabres are getting low ball offers.

Seto, Bollig, Hanowski for Stewart + 3rd

Glencross-Monahan-Colborne
Gaudreau-Granlund-Hudler
Raymond-Jooris-Stewart
Bouma-Stajan-Jones

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I can see why several teams are interested. 26 year old 6'2 230lb winger that has scored 28 on 2 occasions. He is Rene Bourque all over again but younger. With how he has struggled the vultures are circling saying they can take him off the Sabres hands. There is no bidding war here I am guessing the Sabres are getting low ball offers.

Seto, Bollig, Hanowski for Stewart + 3rd

Glencross-Monahan-Colborne
Gaudreau-Granlund-Hudler
Raymond-Jooris-Stewart
Bouma-Stajan-Jones

Thats an Oiler-esque trade proposal. Thats thinking that we can shove our garbage off into the sun in exchange for diamonds. Relatively.

I agree with the rest of your post though.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Lol.

You know Buffalo's first round pick is one of the most high value draft picks in the NHL right now. I wouldn't even do this if it was the St.Louis or NYI first rounder we have. Max Reinhart + junk for a top 5/probably top 3 pick, man some fans get delusional about their own prospects/players. That doesn't even happen in a bad draft year, let alone this one.

Delusional or not, if it happens, everyone on this forum will think Treliving will be a genius! Right now, the Flames are in a great position to make a good trade, but not to go out and pick up another useless veteran wasting a spot in the lineup. This is what rebuilding's all about. If Buffalo wants Max Reinhart bad enough so that both brothers are on one team, then hey, let's get something going. It's not like the Flame are giving up crap with Stajan, Setogouchi, and Sven. It's not like Stewart brings all that much to the Flames besides the size factor at the moment. He also carries a $4M cap hit - pretty steep for someone who's really not doing much for the past few seasons.

[dissentowner]

I think the best I would do is M. Reinhart +David Jones for Stewart. I think that is fair.

[N-E-B]

Stewart isn't a bad player when he's on, but he's just so inconsistent and looks disinterested in playing for Buffalo. I don't like calling people in the NHL lazy, because they're not lazy.

If we can get him for very very very cheap, then why not? Otherwise I'll pass.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Locke

Thats an Oiler-esque trade proposal. Thats thinking that we can shove our garbage off into the sun in exchange for diamonds. Relatively.

I agree with the rest of your post though.

Swap Hanowski with Reinhart? I could see the Sabres having interest is acquiring Max.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Swap Hanowski with Reinhart? I could see the Sabres having interest is acquiring Max.

That better.

I mean, anyone in the league could have had Seto for free a couple of weeks ago, so from a trading perspective hes pretty worthless.

The jury is still out on Hanowski.

Reinhart on the other hand holds some value, maybe even more intrinsically from Buffalo's perspective.

[Scornfire]

Hanowski is leading our AHL team in scoring with nearly twice as many goals as the next guy, and he's a pretty big positional need for the organization

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Scornfire

Hanowski is leading our AHL team in scoring with nearly twice as many goals as the next guy, and he's a pretty big positional need for the organization

Again, thats great and all, but it doesnt mean a lot. Theres a reason he wasnt one of the many, many callups.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I think the best I would do is M. Reinhart +David Jones for Stewart. I think that is fair.

David Jones has more value than Chris Stewart. They are both in the same boat, where they were offered good contracts for 1/2 good years. I think Calgary gets hosed if D. Jones and Max are offered. Am I against D. Jones getting traded? No, but I like what I've seen from him thus far in the season.

Honestly, I hope we manage to get a d prospect from them included in the trade.

[Scornfire]

Originally Posted by Locke

Again, thats great and all, but it doesnt mean a lot. Theres a reason he wasnt one of the many, many callups.

He got called up last year, and thus far it's only been Granny/Ferly/Baertschi/Reinhart who've received call ups, that's not very many at all, and while it goes without saying that Granlund and Ferland deserved theirs before him (Reinhart was sort of a given since we were down 3 centers), Baertschi hasn't played nearly as well as Ben has this year

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Delusional or not, if it happens, everyone on this forum will think Treliving will be a genius! Right now, the Flames are in a great position to make a good trade, but not to go out and pick up another useless veteran wasting a spot in the lineup. This is what rebuilding's all about. If Buffalo wants Max Reinhart bad enough so that both brothers are on one team, then hey, let's get something going. It's not like the Flame are giving up crap with Stajan, Setogouchi, and Sven. It's not like Stewart brings all that much to the Flames besides the size factor at the moment. He also carries a $4M cap hit - pretty steep for someone who's really not doing much for the past few seasons.

You're still missing the fact that Buffalo's pick is a top 5 pick that holds great value in any year of a draft. Everyone thinks you're delusional because you actually think we can manage to get that pick with trading our garbage to them.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Honest question: Has Hartley ever NOT gotten a notoriously lazy player to turn their game around and be at least energetic and engaged?

The first one that comes to mind is Setoguchi who progressively showed more and more energy the more games he played, but he just didn't have the skill to do a damned thing. Before joining the Flames, Seto was notorious for being lazy, but when I watched him, he didn't look all that lazy, just... lost.

If the price really is a mid-level prospect and an AHL player, isn't there a distinct possibility that Stewart could pull it together under Hartley? Yes, it's a risk, but where is a guy like Max Reinhart going in this organization behind the likes of Monahan, Backlund, Bennett, Stajan, Granlund, and Jooris? Not far.

Like some of you, I'm torn on whether or not I want Stewart on the team. I'm a sucker for power forwards. I love them. But his reputation precedes him. At the price, I think it might be worth the risk.