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PeteMoss · 12-11-2014, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jiginla12

everyone relax, sidney might not play tomorrow. we will make marc-andre our bitch.

Toews left the game tonight as well. Not sure if its that serious though.

PeteMoss · 12-11-2014, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by northcrunk

I think this is exactly what Flames fans feared with Stajan, Colborne and Raymond coming back to take the spots of the young guys who were up busting their butts. There need to be some trades made because we were much better with the young guys in abby than the tired old vets coming back from injury and rusty.

Stajan was scratched, Raymond had barely any ice time and Colborne was decent.

Huntingwhale · 12-11-2014, 09:49 PM

Brutal. A game we needed to win and this happens. Oh well, the team was due for a losing streak. Hopefully good times lie ahead.

Inferno · 12-11-2014, 09:56 PM

I only saw the last goal but regardless of the defense Ramo needs to be better than that especially against a brutal team like Buffalo. The third goal reminded me of Berra.

AC · 12-11-2014, 10:00 PM

Frustrating result tonight.

I'm on the fence in terms of optimist/pessimist regarding the game. While I agree we outplayed the Sabres and likely should have deserved a better fate, we also didn't have many particularly good scoring chances.

Lots of shots are great, but like we've discovered regarding the corsi argument against us this season, it doesn't tell the whole story.

A few bad defensive lapses cost us the game, but generating a few more chances in tight would have helped a lot too.

Oh well, learn from the mistakes and fix them tomorrow.

Robbob · 12-11-2014, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by activeStick

Losing 3 straight is bad enough, but having to listen now to the advanced stats supporters say, "we told you so" is going to be the worst!

but in those 3 games are advanced numbers are better. So according to advanced stats we should not have lost those.

sharkov · 12-11-2014, 10:06 PM

This is just payback from the hockey gods for the Chicago game that we stole

Soliak · 12-11-2014, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Spoken like an Oilers fan.

Taking a lot of shots rarely overcomes atrocious defence.

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Originally Posted by Resolute

Tonight's performance wouldn't beat anybody. Not even Edmonton.

I think you'll find mate that statistically speaking whenever a team doubles the shots of their opponents, they generally win despite the defence. Saying tonight's performance wouldn't beat anybody is a ridiculous over-exaggeration. If Enroth wasn't on tonight, we would of won. If we had a tiny bit more puck luck, we would of won. ####, we nearly scored at the end of the game and only lost by a single goal. I understand you're a bit upset that we lost but let's be realists here, our performance despite some brutal defensive mistakes should of won us the game.

SHOGUN · 12-11-2014, 10:21 PM

Yeah we suck defensively as a team.

Street Pharmacist · 12-11-2014, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AC

Frustrating result tonight.

I'm on the fence in terms of optimist/pessimist regarding the game. While I agree we outplayed the Sabres and likely should have deserved a better fate, we also didn't have many particularly good scoring chances.

Lots of shots are great, but like we've discovered regarding the corsi argument against us this season, it doesn't tell the whole story.

A few bad defensive lapses cost us the game, but generating a few more chances in tight would have helped a lot too.

Oh well, learn from the mistakes and fix them tomorrow.

Forget corsi, we had a considerably larger number of scoring chances

burn_this_city · 12-11-2014, 10:28 PM

Overtime is painful tonight. Guys going on about how Colborne, Raymond, and Stajan have destroyed the chemistry.

AC · 12-11-2014, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Forget corsi, we had a considerably larger number of scoring chances

Definitely. However, I wouldn't say we forced Enroth into making any great saves.

After a quick look at the highlight clips here:
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...,2,422&lang=en

I'd say Enroth made a good save on the Byron breakaway, and the Jones wrister + rebound at 15:53 of the 3rd. Honestly thats about it for notable saves.

combustiblefuel · 12-11-2014, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Inferno

I only saw the last goal but regardless of the defense Ramo needs to be better than that especially against a brutal team like Buffalo. The third goal reminded me of Berra.

You mean the last goal which was the 4th. The third goal was he got tangled up in the Buffalo player.

Street Pharmacist · 12-11-2014, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AC

Definitely. However, I wouldn't say we forced Enroth into making any great saves.

After a quick look at the highlight clips here:
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...,2,422&lang=en

I'd say Enroth made a good save on the Byron breakaway, and the Jones wrister + rebound at 15:53 of the 3rd. Honestly thats about it for notable saves.

It didn't really with like that though. When a goalie is on like he is, they're directing rebounds away, stopping cross ice passes and swallowing initial shots. Look at Buffalo's goals, they were just scrambles after a shot. If Ramo swallows them up we're not taking about Ramo having a great game either.

Offensively, they played very well. They didn't clear rebounds or cover their man well in their own end and it bit them.

Dion · 12-11-2014, 10:46 PM

AC · 12-11-2014, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

It didn't really with like that though. When a goalie is on like he is, they're directing rebounds away, stopping cross ice passes and swallowing initial shots. Look at Buffalo's goals, they were just scrambles after a shot. If Ramo swallows them up we're not taking about Ramo having a great game either.

Offensively, they played very well. They didn't clear rebounds or cover their man well in their own end and it bit them.

Yeah I agree with that as well. A goalie that is "on" makes all saves look easy. We certainly saw that with Kipper, he would make 1 or 2 highlight-reel saves a game and absorbed everything else.

IMO, tonight was just a mix between the 2 sides of the puck. The Flames had too many perimeter shots, and allowed too many grade-A chances in the crease due to poor defensive coverage and lapses.

Dion · 12-11-2014, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Overtime is painful tonight. Guys going on about how Colborne, Raymond, and Stajan have destroyed the chemistry.

Best part was Steinberg asking callers to support their claim and no one could.

Finger Cookin · 12-11-2014, 10:49 PM

Eh, we'll probably be outplayed tomorrow and win.

heep223 · 12-11-2014, 10:58 PM

Buffalo, Rhett? Friggen Buffalo?

Street Pharmacist · 12-11-2014, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AC

Yeah I agree with that as well. A goalie that is "on" makes all saves look easy. We certainly saw that with Kipper, he would make 1 or 2 highlight-reel saves a game and absorbed everything else.

IMO, tonight was just a mix between the 2 sides of the puck. The Flames had too many perimeter shots, and allowed too many grade-A chances in the crease due to poor defensive coverage and lapses.

A game like this has me less worried than those come from behind on the third period wins. That's not a recipe for future success. Defensive lapses aren't a trend this year, so I suspect that's easier to clean up than getting outplayed like we were earlier in the year