12-09-2014, 03:45 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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McKenzie: Flames won't hesitate to add a big name player
http://www.nicholsonhockey.com/worth...enators-flames
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Bob McKenzie was on Toronto’s TSN 1050 on Tuesday afternoon.
On the Ottawa Senators and Calgary Flames being the two lowest-spending teams in the NHL, and how while there is criticism of that fact in Ottawa because they want to be competitive right now, it seems strategic for the Flames at the beginning of a development cycle so they leave room to retain the core as they age:
“Yeah, I think so... I don’t think they’re afraid to pull the chequebook out if it needs to be pulled out. But you’re right - they’re a fairly young team and as young teams get older, and even in fairness, again – there’s no question the Senators are where they are budget-wise because that’s where Eugene Melnyk wants them to be. But there’s also an element of there’s some young players who haven’t really hit their salary zenith yet and you’ve got to leave room for that. And certainly the Flames are doing that.
“But I’ll tell you what: If the Flames could make a deal to add a big-name player, I don’t think they’d hesitate to do it if they thought it if they thought it made sense long-term for the building of the franchise.”
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12-09-2014, 03:49 PM
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Backup Goalie
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I don't think that's a surprise to anyone- as long as Treliving holds the line on something that makes sense "long-term" rather than grabbing a pending UFA rental player or a huge, long-term contract that could handcuff them in the future.
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12-09-2014, 03:49 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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As long as it's for a guy who can be a part of this team for the next 5 years and it's an improvement of course, I say go for it.
Only thing is I can't think of any player that has any value that I'd want to move at the moment.
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12-09-2014, 03:49 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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Lecavalier here we come!
Haha, jk.
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12-09-2014, 03:50 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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The key is making sense long-term. The Flames aren't going to go out and add a rental player unless its a salary dump for the other team IMO.
However given our logjam of a few prospects in the same tier seemingly, we do have the luxury to add a more established player (23-28) if it makes sense for them to join the team's foundation.
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12-09-2014, 03:51 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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2015 and 2016 1sts for Seguin
Git 'er done, B-Tree!
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12-09-2014, 03:54 PM
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Franchise Player
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We're still looking for a trading partner that will trade their quality player for our quantity prospects.
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12-09-2014, 03:54 PM
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Franchise Player
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if they thought it made sense long-term for the building of the franchise
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The part that's totally going to get lost when this is discussed by media and fan forums for the next two weeks.
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12-09-2014, 03:57 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
2015 and 2016 1sts for Seguin
Git 'er done, B-Tree!
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No.
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12-09-2014, 03:57 PM
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Backup Goalie
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
2015 and 2016 1sts for Seguin
Git 'er done, B-Tree!
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Wasn't it rumoured the Flames could have had Seguin for Baertschi + when he was traded from Boston?
Anyways, hope that the Flames don't do anything too drastic as they should continue to find out what they have with the current players/prospects.
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12-09-2014, 03:58 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Originally Posted by DirtyMike
Wasn't it rumoured the Flames could have had Seguin for Baertschi + when he was traded from Boston?
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Speculation was 6th overall (Monahan) + Gaudreau
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12-09-2014, 03:59 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by DirtyMike
Wasn't it rumoured the Flames could have had Seguin for Baertschi + when he was traded from Boston?
Anyways, hope that the Flames don't do anything too drastic as they should continue to find out what they have with the current players/prospects.
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The rumour was the pick that turned out to be Monahan and Gaudreau.
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12-09-2014, 03:59 PM
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Franchise Player
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The only thing that could make sense is getting a 25ish year old defenseman from somewhere. If the Coyotes are needing to cut payroll, I would target Olivier Ekman Larsson.
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12-09-2014, 04:01 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by DirtyMike
Wasn't it rumoured the Flames could have had Seguin for Baertschi + when he was traded from Boston?
Anyways, hope that the Flames don't do anything too drastic as they should continue to find out what they have with the current players/prospects.
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Pretty sure the rumour was the flames' 2013 1st round pick (Monahan), gaudreau, and baertschi for seguin. No thanks.
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12-09-2014, 04:02 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Caged Great
The only thing that could make sense is getting a 25ish year old defenseman from somewhere. If the Coyotes are needing to cut payroll, I would target Olivier Ekman Larsson.
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and say goodbye to Monahan+ or Bennett+
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12-09-2014, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Speculation was 6th overall (Monahan) + Gaudreau
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Wow...that would have been awful. I like Seguin, but not that much.
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12-09-2014, 04:04 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
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Valuable assets I can see us moving if the price is right
Granlund, Sven, Glencross, Wideman, 2015 1st.
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12-09-2014, 04:05 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyMike
Wasn't it rumoured the Flames could have had Seguin for Baertschi + when he was traded from Boston?
Anyways, hope that the Flames don't do anything too drastic as they should continue to find out what they have with the current players/prospects.
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No I think it was rumoured Gaudreau + 2013 6th (Monahan) overall would have landed Seguin. I don't think I would do that trade in hindsight anyways, although at the time people were tantalized by the idea of acquiring him.
You can't say it would've been terrible. I mean he is the league's top scorer, on pace for over 50 goals, on a bad team.
But Monahan and Gaudreau combined could in the future far surpass what Seguin brings.
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12-09-2014, 04:08 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by DOOM
and say goodbye to Monahan+ or Bennett+
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Probably not. He just signed a long term contract and has been somewhat terrible for him this season. You could possibly get him for a couple of decent forward prospects and possibly our 1st.
Would you trade Klimchuk + Sven + 2015 1st for OEL?
Like everything, it depends on what the who's and whats are.
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12-09-2014, 04:09 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Red Deer, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
The only thing that could make sense is getting a 25ish year old defenseman from somewhere. If the Coyotes are needing to cut payroll, I would target Olivier Ekman Larsson.
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I think that is getting a bit out of our price range. I think someone in the Coburn-Alzner bracket is much more attainable.
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Originally Posted by Caged Great
Probably not. He just signed a long term contract and has been somewhat terrible for him this season. You could possibly get him for a couple of decent forward prospects and possibly our 1st.
Would you trade Klimchuk + Sven + 2015 1st for OEL?
Like everything, it depends on what the who's and whats.
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20 bad games does not wash out his performance the three years prior. No way does Phoenix take anything short of Bennett. They arent doing Sven, Klimchuk and a 1st
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