Calgary Transit Passanger Racist DBag

[The Ditch]

hey man racism is bull#### but lol if you think im going to stand up and start mouthing some random obviously mentally messed up guy id hit the button or make a phone call but it's p ####ty of you to call out people because guess what people dont want to be socked in the jaw going home from their ####ty job

[CarlW]

Bravo good sir.

Can't you call the cops and get this guy for assault or something? there must be security cameras at these stations when he gets off the train, etc.

[fatso]

Good on you TBQH! Sorry to hear about getting sucker punched. Hope you feel better man!

Is the C-Train an unsafe place? Is violence/aggression on there common?

[terminator]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

Tonight I stood up against racism.

So, tonight was a family members concert. I was running a few minutes late getting ready, and I hate being late. I'm downtown taking the train to the Jubilee when I here this guy shouting through my ear buds. I take one out and he's yelling at these young Asians telling them to go back to China and a whole bunch of things I won't repeat. I hate racists. I counted to ten to see if he was going to stop and he wasn't. So I said "ENOUGH OF THAT!" The train was pretty packed and I figured he'd just start mouthing off to me instead of the other people. Well, that's what happened. And then it escalated to the point that I pushed the emergency button for Calgary Transit because this dude is a real a-hole. He jumps up into my face and he starts threatening me and trying to get me to fight. Finally the train stops the guy grabs my headphones rips them out and then hits me straight in the jaw. What a dick. He jumps out of the train "That's for calling the cops!" so because I clicked the button the train is not moving and the train operator isn't answering or anyone else (for minutes now). I yelled at the people in the train "Thank you everyone for the help at fighting racism. Some dude said "I was about to beat the #### out of that guy" ... No, no he wasn't. Nobody else did anything. Anyway, 5 minutes later the train isn't moving some lady said, "You're a hero." I replied "no". I just did what was right (cliche, yes but it's true.) Now I have people telling me to charge this coward. I just need to get to the Jub! ... I expected he was going to swing but mostly, I'm just pissed he broke my only pair of earbuds...

So I'm happy that I did the right thing and even though it hurts to bite down I'd do it again.

You're the hero Calgary deserves.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by The Ditch

hey man racism is bull#### but lol if you think im going to stand up and start mouthing some random obviously mentally messed up guy id hit the button or make a phone call but it's p ####ty of you to call out people because guess what people dont want to be socked in the jaw going home from their ####ty job

Well at least we know which side of the line you stand on.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Well at least we know which side of the line you stand on.

The one that no one understands (literally)?

Would it kill people to use a comma? I have no idea how to read that post.

[Daradon]

I'm sorry no one moved in to help you or back you, obviously you did the right thing. It's probably a 50/50 thing. I have found that while it is true that most people will do nothing at the start of the situation, often it only takes one person to stand up to the injustice to get others to help out. (enter first rock in an avalanche cliche) This wasn't the case today for you, but don't let it discourage you in the future. Not everyone is as apathetic as your train was today.

[combustiblefuel]

Good job Sir.

I don't understand people not backing you up . Complete BS.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Good job Sir.

I don't understand people not backing you up . Complete BS.

While I'd love to assume I'd have backed the OP in this situation (I believe I would have, but hey, every situation is different and you never really know until #### goes down), it is far from complete BS that others didn't.

One, as much as I detest the fact that racism was occurring, why should anyone on that train feel obliged to put themselves in physical danger for this situation. One, the OP, very admiarily, stood up to someone verbally, which was great. From there, the offending racisit made this a physical confrontation, and targeted the OP, who chose voluntarily to engage with him.

Sounds like the offending racist was one and done for punches, then ran away, so anyone else "jumping" in would be doing so simply out of principal or to catch an offending jack ass. I can completely understand why someone would decided not to risk physical harm to themselves simply to "apprehend" a jack ass. It would be different if the racist continued to attack the OP, but once the altercation started sounds like he ran away, I'm completely comfortable with the general population not risking themselves physically when there is now no on-going physical danger to someone else. If OP was getting pummelled and breaking up the fight was potentially saving his life or preventing serious injury, then I'd expect others to help protect, it's the right thing to do.

But to risk yourself physically out of principal.............not something anyone should be critiquing others for not doing.

[northcrunk]

Good job man, I would have done the same thing. I had a similar incident happen about 3 months ago. Drunk dude in his 50s mouthing off racist #### so I told him to shut his fin mouth or get the f off the train, same with these 2 20s something philipino dudes next to me. We get to the next stop and he gets off the train and starts kicking at the peope in the door, of course the buttons been hit already but I have been pushed down the aisle due to so many people on the train. The philipino guys are near the door at this point so they decide to get off the train and one guy starts shoving this guy and they get into it but its more of a grabbing match than a fight. Then the drunk dude decides to go after the first dudes buddy and get hammered by a right hook and dropped. It took about 10 seconds for the drunk idiot to be yelling racist crap to being knocked out on the city hall platform.

It's too bad nobody jumed in after he hit you, I know I would have.

[Jordan!]

Eh, you should've just minded your business. One thing that is for sure, that guy won't amount to anything in his life and you've already won be default simply by keeping your mouth shut. You clearly didn't change him, If anything you just added fuel to his fire to do that again by giving him that attention - the dude gets off on it.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

Eh, you should've just minded your business. One thing that is for sure, that guy won't amount to anything in his life and you've already won be default simply by keeping your mouth shut. You clearly didn't change him, If anything you just added fuel to his fire to do that again by giving him that attention - the dude gets off on it.

:facepalm:

[steveo]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

Eh, you should've just minded your business. One thing that is for sure, that guy won't amount to anything in his life and you've already won be default simply by keeping your mouth shut. You clearly didn't change him, If anything you just added fuel to his fire to do that again by giving him that attention - the dude gets off on it.

I would love to have you as a friend watching my back.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by steveo

I would love to have you as a friend watching my back.

And I'm sure Bouw N Arrow would have loved to have you as a friend, picking fights left right and center, forcing him to have to stick up for you everytime someone crossed your moral compass.

Bouw N Arrow's comments weren't anything about not sticking up for friends or bailing them out, it was merely a suggestion that it might be a better idea not to start altercations with every jackass you meet in life. If we lived in a city like NY, if you decided to confront every jackass you encountered on the Subway, and be a "hero" every time the opportunity presented it's self, you would surely end up dead well before your time as eventually you'd get unluckly or stand up to the wrong guy. Sure it's great to do the right thing and stick up for people, don't get me wrong, but you can't play superhero to every situation and not have some serious consequences come your way. So, should everyone risk ending up in the hospital or dead because some loser decided to make some racists comments? As Bouw pointed out, the loser isn't going to change, so in this situation it's all good because the OP didn't end up badly hurt and he did an nice thing, but if he'd ended up getting stabbed over it, would anyone really think him opening his mouth was worth it? It think that's a fair question.

[sketchyt]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

Eh, you should've just minded your business. One thing that is for sure, that guy won't amount to anything in his life and you've already won be default simply by keeping your mouth shut. You clearly didn't change him, If anything you just added fuel to his fire to do that again by giving him that attention - the dude gets off on it.

Wow.

It's not about changing the dbag. It's about changing the perceptions of everyone around him. The people who did nothing... maybe next time they'll think about reacting instead of sitting on their thumbs. Most importantly, it changes the perception of the Chinese people who are new to this country and realize there are people like that who will put themselves in harms way.

If anything, TBQH's ability to not lose it and escalate the situation into further physical violence pretty much should resonate with more than an apathetic (and pathetic) "eh".

[Jordan!]

TBQH Could have not posted this, to me it looks like he's looking for props on being a hero or validation for his actions.

Hero's shouldn't advertise their good deeds in my opinion.

Good on you, but what was accomplished here? In a perfect world, that ####### may think twice but I honestly believe more harm than good was done by TBQH. These scumbags are fueled by altercation and TBQH was lucky to not get stabbed or worse.

This has nothing to do with helping someone who is getting their ass beat, or protecting friends a loud mouth on a train is hardly a threat.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by The Ditch

hey man racism is bull#### but lol if you think im going to stand up and start mouthing some random obviously mentally messed up guy id hit the button or make a phone call but it's p ####ty of you to call out people because guess what people dont want to be socked in the jaw going home from their ####ty job

I don't know what's worse, your opinion or the fact that you don't know how to use a sentence.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

TBQH Could have not posted this, to me it looks like he's looking for props on being a hero.

Hero's shouldn't advertise their good deeds in my opinion.

Good on you, but what was accomplished here? In a perfect world, that ####### may think twice but I honestly believe more harm than good was done by TBQH. These scumbags are fueled by altercation and TBQH was lucky to not get stabbed or worse.

This has nothing to do with helping someone who is getting their ass beat, or protecting friends

Thanks for that. I figured it would pop up sooner.

I have many friends who have to listen to racist crap and I always speak out. Your post is pretty pessimistic and defeatest and I'm a very optimistic person. I believe that it's good to know that people will stand up for others. I don't care much for the guy that hit me, I care about the people he was verbally abusive too. My actions on the train were to show them that it is NOT OKAY! We do not tolerate that behavior.

Now, bout your silly comments about my character. I don't care what you think. I needed to vent the situation and I'm a part of this community.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Igottago

I don't know what's worse, your opinion or the fact that you don't know how to use a sentence.

Clearly the inability to use a sentence is much worse.

I'm actually starting to find this thread hilarious. By the OPs own accounts, he was the only one on the train that did a damn thing. In my days I've seen a few incidents go down out in public (as I'm sure many of us have) and I've seen enough TV and video's of actual situations occurring to know that the OPs experience with crowd apathy is certainly the norm in these situations.

But not here on CP, close to every single poster making a comment is floored by the lack of back up the OP received, and almost every single one of them stating they'd have been right in there if they'd witnessed it go down.

What's the mostly likely scenario going on in here then? Does CP just simply have a far more moral and courageous base of members than the average population? Are many in here simply stating what they'd like to think they'd do, but actually haven't been in a situation when they've had to actually cross the line and do the things they want to in their head when craps actually going down? Or do we have some serious cases of the internet tough guys going on?

I'm going to wager its much more likely to be a combination of the latter two than the first.

[Barbecue]

Probably the most disappointing thing of this whole story was that its likely this guy got away with it and the cops wont find him.

Why didnt the OP didnt throw a punch back? It's good that he confronted the racist, but if you're going to, you're going to have to expect to have to get in a brawl, especially when he chose to get up all in your face.

he wont learn anything if he walks away, but he might've had he had his teeth knocked in and in a pool of his own blood