12-03-2014, 08:09 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SebC
This woman was not abused, she was hit on.
And, once again, the vilification of men who hit on women actually works against creating a culture of consent.
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Exactly! She was asked for nudes. You know what your response can be? Delete the request and block the user. Report him to Facebook if you need to. She continued to engage in conversation with him. Her discussions with him were over a internet platform where you can block and delete things you don't want to see. This wasn't person to person. She had the control to make it stop if she was uncomfortable and chose not to.
Hell, you can look in this thread for the proper way to deal with that type of response as a women. Nik made a comment (jokingly probably) and I just ignored it and moved on. Or is the proper thing to do to go screaming to the mods to save me because I'm a damsel in distress?
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12-03-2014, 08:11 PM
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#102
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Austin, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SebC
This woman was not abused, she was hit on.
And, once again, the vilification of men who hit on women actually works against creating a culture of consent.
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1. You shouldn't hit on women from a professional twitter account.
2. There are very many non offensive ways to hit on a woman. "Show me your front meat!" is not one of them.
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12-03-2014, 08:12 PM
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#103
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamingLonghorn
1. You shouldn't hit on women from a professional twitter account.
2. There are very many non offensive ways to hit on a woman. "Show me your front meat!" is not one of them.
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But she should just take it as a compliment!
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12-03-2014, 08:12 PM
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#104
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A Fiddler Crab
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
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She did not continue to engage in discussion with him. She stated as much on her twitter account.
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12-03-2014, 08:13 PM
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#105
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Antithesis
Dude, I never said that it was appropriate. In fact, if anything I think it's inappropriate. What I am saying is that his behavior is incredibly inappropriate.
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No doubt in my mind. It's unprofessional and inappropriate.
That being said, I find nothing about this particular woman beyond reproach. Sexism and harassment has to be approached on a case by case basis, rather than a blanket approach.
Dater needs help, as he stated himself, and his actions should be scrutinized. It doesn't absolve the other party of any scrutiny whatsoever.
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12-03-2014, 08:15 PM
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#106
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SebC
This woman was not abused, she was hit on.
And, once again, the vilification of men who hit on women actually works against creating a culture of consent.
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In fairness she doesn't know that. She doesn't get to see the facial expressions or the body language of the person making those comments.
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12-03-2014, 08:15 PM
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#107
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Disenfranchised
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@CFF I agree 100%. If my posts are coming off as trying to absolve anyone in this situation of any blame then I am clearly failing in communication. That's not my intent. If I am misreading things, then I am more than willing to acknowledge that as well.
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12-03-2014, 08:16 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
She's not a professional media member. It's her own personal twitter account. Hell, my twitter picture is me sucking the tits of a limestone giraffe. How many sexually suggestive tweets do you think I get?
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1) Your twitter picture is extremely disturbing. Consider seeking help.
2) She should then therefore never be offended receiving a sexually suggestive tweet (I hate that I just wrote that sentence). Not sure she made a problem for Dater, but if she did she's a hypocrite.
3) Dater is not beyond reproach. He should have consequence for his actions as he should be able to rise above the situation presented to him.
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12-03-2014, 08:16 PM
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#109
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Australia
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I didn't realise this, but those messages are actually from a year ago.
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12-03-2014, 08:16 PM
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#110
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Antithesis
@CFF I agree 100%. If my posts are coming off as trying to absolve anyone in this situation of any blame then I am clearly failing in communication. That's not my intent. If I am misreading things, then I am more than willing to acknowledge that as well.
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Not a problem, just having a bit of a back-and-forth. Continue...
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12-03-2014, 08:18 PM
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#111
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Australia
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Publicity stunt - confirmed.
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12-03-2014, 08:18 PM
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#112
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Disenfranchised
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Fair enough, anyway, I do hope that Dater gets the help he needs in order to resolve any issues he may be experiencing.
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12-03-2014, 08:19 PM
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#113
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan
1) Your twitter picture is extremely disturbing. Consider seeking help.
2) She should then therefore never be offended receiving a sexually suggestive tweet (I hate that I just wrote that sentence). Not sure she made a problem for Dater, but if she did she's a hypocrite.
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Erroneous on both counts.
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12-03-2014, 08:21 PM
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#114
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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One thing to keep in mind is that these messages from Dater are a year old and in some of the conversations she had a different avatar than the "cleavage" avatar she is using now
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12-03-2014, 08:23 PM
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#115
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
Erroneous on both counts.
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Nope.
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12-03-2014, 08:41 PM
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#117
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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I, for one, am completely shocked this thread degenerated into victim-blaming.
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12-03-2014, 08:49 PM
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#118
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#1 Goaltender
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Rubecube, what are the feminists thoughts on a girl calling a guy a dick?
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12-03-2014, 08:51 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Temporary_User
Rubecube, what are the feminists thoughts on a girl calling a guy a dick?
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####ed if I know. You know feminists are not one monolithic entity, right?
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