[News] Mark Giordano named NHL first star of the month

[thymebalm]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

If he plays the full season, does Giordano surpass the 60-point mark? I can't see how he wouldn't. I'm of the mind that he could realistically end the season with 70.

At this point I give him an 80 point ceiling. 75 fully doable and 60 would almost be a disappointment. It would mean going .6ppg the rest of the year after going 1ppg in the first twenty five. That's almost cutting his production in half.

I get the want to set reasonable expectations, but watching him play makes me think he's going to leave his previous point totals in the dust.

With the system the Flames play this year all the offense runs through the d, so as long as he's healthy I expect the production to remain around this level. Maybe down to .8 but certainly not .6..

Of course I'm willing to admit my bromance for Gio could be clouding my judgement.

[kirant]

To just add to the Giordano praise and to make the advanced stats favour the Flames, take a look at this (comes from Reddit):



Basically, Giordano and Brodie are starting most of the defensive faceoffs and succeeding in the role against top tier opponents. And by "normal" statistics, they are getting tonnes of points and kickstarting the offence. That is amazing.

[J epworth]

Originally Posted by kirant

To just add to the Giordano praise and to make the advanced stats favour the Flames, take a look at this (comes from Reddit):



Basically, Giordano and Brodie are starting most of the defensive faceoffs and succeeding in the role against top tier opponents. And by "normal" statistics, they are getting tonnes of points and kickstarting the offence. That is amazing.

Here is looking at Brodie and Giordano compared to other top D so far this year. Shows league wide they are starting most in D-zone, against the hardest competition and with Andy Greene, are creating a lot more shots at net compared to the rest of their team. The other D-man in the bubble that is with Brodie, Giordano and Greene is Marc Staal, but it's less impressive because he's playing against tough competition and starting in the D zone, but the tougher competition is burying him in the D-zone.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Probably not the Hart - though he would deserve it if we make the playoffs. If the voters gave him the Norris, they would probably feel free to give Crosby the Hart again.

You're probably right. But at the very least he should get a nomination, and IMO that's just as good when 20 years from now we're reflecting on his career.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Very well deserved! Congrats Gio!

[codynw]

Originally Posted by J epworth kendal

Here is looking at Brodie and Giordano compared to other top D so far this year. Shows league wide they are starting most in D-zone, against the hardest competition and with Andy Greene, are creating a lot more shots at net compared to the rest of their team. The other D-man in the bubble that is with Brodie, Giordano and Greene is Marc Staal, but it's less impressive because he's playing against tough competition and starting in the D zone, but the tougher competition is burying him in the D-zone.

Can someone quickly sum up what all of this means? Only one I fully understand is Off ZS%.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by codynw

Can someone quickly sum up what all of this means? Only one I fully understand is Off ZS%.

The further to the right is getting more offensive start time from the coach.

The higher the bubble is the tougher the matchups their given (% of time against the opposition's best players).

The more blue the bubble, the higher the corsi rel (shots towards the opposition's net for your team minus shots towards your goal while that player is on the ice).

Essentially, Gio/Brodie start in their own zone more often, against the toughest competition more often, yet they are the ones helping their team get offensive chances.

[J epworth]

Originally Posted by codynw

Can someone quickly sum up what all of this means? Only one I fully understand is Off ZS%.

First, the red and the blue circles:
Corsi Rel%: The player's on-ice Corsi% minus the player's off-ice Corsi%; off-ice Corsi% is the percent of shot attempts taken by the player's team when the player is not on the ice (but in games where the player is in the lineup); also known as CF Rel%

So the darker the blue, the better corsi rel% for that player, darker the red, the worse their CF Rel% is.

TOI Competition %: The TOI-weighted TOI% for a player's competition. So the higher this number, the competition the defensemen is facing is players that take up a larger percentage of the total TOI for their respective teams. AKA a high number here means when you are on the ice, the players on the other team are the 1st line players that are getting 20+ minutes of ice per game.

This one is a little less "exact" in determining how "good" the opposing players are when the Defenseman is on the ice, but it still is fairly decent as a comparison tool.

Offensive ZS%: The percent of all non-neutral zone on-ice faceoffs taken in the offensive zone

That one is fairly simple, lower the number, the more time plays start in your zone. This on it's own is not a good stat for concluding if a player is good, but it's a great stat to use in conjunction with Corsi Rel%. If most faceoffs are starting in your zone when your on the ice but the team is still managing more shots for with you on the ice, you can infer that the player is having an effect in moving the puck from the defensive zone into the offensive zone proficiently.