[News] Another slow start for Iginla

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Azhouse

If he wants to win a cup before he retires he is going about it the wrong way. One year deals with trades to contenders at the deadline ala Pittsburgh may be his only option at this point of his career. I'm afraid that a three year deal to Colorado is not going to get it done.

Bouncing around from team to team chasing a Cup, in a 30 team league, is a dumb way to finish a career. You might try to get on one of the four or five teams you think have the best shot at winning the Cup. But it's probably not going to happen. Especially in a capped league. And there are other considerations in life for these guys (financial, family, etc.).

[getbak]

Originally Posted by goodyear

Here's how I think it should play out

Flames make playoffs...trade Jones (who is probably coming off the IR for the 5th time this season) for Iginla at the deadline. Flames win cup. Iginla retires.

Maybe two years from now, but not this year. If Iginla retires after this season, his cap hit will stay on his team's books for two more years because he was 35+ when he signed it.

[Azhouse]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Bouncing around from team to team chasing a Cup, in a 30 team league, is a dumb way to finish a career. You might try to get on one of the four or five teams you think have the best shot at winning the Cup. But it's probably not going to happen. Especially in a capped league. And there are other considerations in life for these guys (financial, family, etc.).

I am of the opposite opinion. Hitching your wagon to Colorado for 3 years when you are 37 is a "dumb way to finish your career" (especially if you want to put a cap on your legacy with a cup).

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Bouncing around from team to team chasing a Cup, in a 30 team league, is a dumb way to finish a career. You might try to get on one of the four or five teams you think have the best shot at winning the Cup. But it's probably not going to happen. Especially in a capped league. And there are other considerations in life for these guys (financial, family, etc.).

While generally true, not so much when you're at the end of your career with no cup.

[Righteous1]

Iginla goes where he gets the most money and term. No way he thought he'd actually have a shot at the cup in Colorado.

He's still got 60 points in em, but he'll never win a cup.

[FlamesAddiction]

Not to break the illusion, but I don't think winning a Cup is as much of a concern to a lot of players as it is to the fans. At least not worth millions of dollars.

Every year, many free agents sign with teams that offer them the best contracts and very few players sacrifice a lot of money in order to just win a Cup. I can't think of many where the player obvious took a discount just to win a Cup. Selanne and Kariya tried it one year (in Colorado coincidentally), but it seems like more of the exception.

[Azhouse]

If I had accumulated $80,000,000 in my sporting career I would be taking a run at it's ultimate prize before I run out of time... I am sure that is just me though?

[t0rrent98]

Spoiler!

I didn't do this...Could he be the next Marian Hossa?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Azhouse

I am of the opposite opinion. Hitching your wagon to Colorado for 3 years when you are 37 is a "dumb way to finish your career" (especially if you want to put a cap on your legacy with a cup).

So who are these contenders Iginla should have signed with? Not Pittsburgh. Not Boston. LA didn't have the space after signing Gaborik. Chicago was against the cap. So St. Louis? Vancouver? Montreal? You're looking at the difference between a team that has an 8 per cent chance to win the Cup and a team that has an 11 per cent chance to win the Cup. At that point, other factors come into play.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by goodyear

Here's how I think it should play out

Flames make playoffs...trade Jones (who is probably coming off the IR for the 5th time this season) for Iginla at the deadline. Flames win cup. Iginla retires.

Or I win LottoMax this Friday.

Either or works for me.

I kid you not, I pretty much made this trade a few days ago in NHL 15. Stajan and Jones for Iggy. I think my cyber-season will play out just as you've described.

[Stay Golden]

Bad career move. Iggy should have stayed with the Bruins. There system was a much better fit for him and he backed that up with the stats.
He was tied for the lead for goals and 3rd for points.
Not to mention the Boston fans quickly took a shine to Iggy.
He chased the money and likely was influenced by bad advice from Meehan.

[Iggy Snipe]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Bad career move. Iggy should have stayed with the Bruins. There system was a much better fit for him and he backed that up with the stats.
He was tied for the lead for goals and 3rd for points.
Not to mention the Boston fans quickly took a shine to Iggy.
He chased the money and likely was influenced by bad advice from Meehan.

I agree. Unfortunately he would have had to take next to nothing to stay with Boston, so you can't blame the guy for wanting to get paid for having yet another 30 goal season and 60+ points, not to mention a plus 37. I still don't think he should have gone to Colorado, but they do have a lot of skill which he probably thought would work.

Boston is not as good with him gone, look at Lucic and Krejci (Krejci has been hurt as well) but they are not as good either. Production is way down. Bostons days of winning the President trophy are done.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Azhouse

Ya you are right. He isn't in it for the money. I think what people here are saying is that they would rather see him take 3ish mil/ year on a one year with a contender. Does he really need another $15,000,000 or does he want a cup?

He's a pretty pro-union guy - he's not going to devalue the contract demands of other players to get a ring. It's why the Colorado thing was actually the best move for him. He gets on a young, up and coming team with a few franchise players that's a piece or two away from being a real contender. They don't have to win it all this year. They have two more seasons with Iginla to put it together, and I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation.

Iggy has always wanted to be paid market value for his services - it's why he often elected to go shorter term on his deals. Last year, he scored 30 goals and was a 60 point first line winger. How much do you think he's worth?

Originally Posted by Azhouse

If I had accumulated $80,000,000 in my sporting career I would be taking a run at it's ultimate prize before I run out of time... I am sure that is just me though?

He did that. Twice. He forced the trade to Pittsburgh, and after Boston beat them in the ECF, he jumped ship to the Bruins. It didn't work either time. He can't chase dragons forever.

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by Iggy Snipe

I agree. Unfortunately he would have had to take next to nothing to stay with Boston, so you can't blame the guy for wanting to get paid for having yet another 30 goal season and 60+ points, not to mention a plus 37. I still don't think he should have gone to Colorado, but they do have a lot of skill which he probably thought would work.

Boston is not as good with him gone, look at Lucic and Krejci (Krejci has been hurt as well) but they are not as good either. Production is way down. Bostons days of winning the President trophy are done.

As a long tome Bruins fan i fully agree.

[Azhouse]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

He can't chase dragons forever.

Nope, just for the next 3-5 years until his career is over.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Azhouse

Ya you are right. He isn't in it for the money. I think what people here are saying is that they would rather see him take 3ish mil/ year on a one year with a contender. Does he really need another $15,000,000 or does he want a cup?

You're looking at this in hindsight though. At the start of the season, Colorado was considered by many to be at least a legit playoff team (and they still might, who knows). People make the "I would play for minimum for a cup" argument way too easily. Seriously, I would be real hesitant to give up millions of dollars in earnings, and I think most people here would too if in his shoes. It's just real easy to make the argument for fans because they aren't the ones giving up the millions.

I'm still cheering for Iggy all the way. I still find it baffling some people think cheering for Iggy and the Flames have to be somehow mutually exclusive.

[GioforPM]

If I was him I would've stayed in the east and maybe tried NYI or TB. I have no idea about their cap situation though. I think the west is more of a crap shoot - too many good teams.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by Iggy Snipe

I agree. Unfortunately he would have had to take next to nothing to stay with Boston, so you can't blame the guy for wanting to get paid for having yet another 30 goal season and 60+ points, not to mention a plus 37. I still don't think he should have gone to Colorado, but they do have a lot of skill which he probably thought would work.

Boston is not as good with him gone, look at Lucic and Krejci (Krejci has been hurt as well) but they are not as good either. Production is way down. Bostons days of winning the President trophy are done.

He's made $83 million over his career.

Why exactly can't he sign for $1 million if he really wants a cup?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by arya stark

why exactly can't he sign for $1 million and disrupt his family repeatedly if he really wants to increase his odds of winning a cup from 8 per cent to 11 per cent?

fyp

[rexx92]

Hindsight is 20/20, Colorado looks like #### right now but they were third in the league in the offseason when he signed.