[PGT] Flames lose to the Honda Center curse

[ben voyonsdonc]

If Gaudreau had been a Duck and the refs allowed that goal, I'd have been livid. It was a kick and was pretty clearly a kick.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I'm gonna bet burned, but that IMO was as obvious a kick as I've seen in quite a while.

Agreed. I mean, if the same kind of play resulted in an allowed goal against us, I would be supremely pissed off.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by La Flames Fan

Soooo...I've been asking this over the last couple years - why can't a player kick the puck in?

Imagine 3 guys kicking at the puck with sharp blades on their feet while the goalie tries to cover the puck

[djsFlames]

Yep. Without that goal late in the second I think the Flames would've actually come back and won. They took all the momentum and were doing whatever they wanted in the Ducks' end out there.

2 goal leads are not safe against the Calgary Flames. 3...it appears is a different story.

[calumniate]

Johnny Messi!!!!

No goal :-D

[chubeyr1]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Imagine 3 guys kicking at the puck with sharp blades on their feet while the goalie tries to cover the puck

Lot of goalies with nicknames, fingers, toes, lefty just to name a few. You said to imagine!

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I don't think we started slowly at all. We outshot the Ducks 12-9 or something, had the better chances, and were unlucky to be down 1-0 on an own goal off the defenseman's skate.

If anything spotted the Ducks a lead, it's the Honda Center curse.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Yeah I know

He did get cut by a skate blade and having guys around the net kicking at pucks is a receipe for disaster.

All it takes is for a kicking skate to come down on someone.

I agree, don't want to see guys kicking at the puck.

[Where ru Chris O'Sullivan]

Ramo should get the next 4 starts,

Gio and Brodie continue to amaze, drive the offense.

Maybe it doesn't matter who's up front,

[dammage79]

That was a good no goal call by the refs. Even with softer rulings now that was still a pretty legit kicking motion by Gaudreau. I wish too that it would have counted but that would've been sketchy.

[Arya Stark]

We are really missing Backlund.

[La Flames Fan]

So yes, totally understandable from a safety issue...

The no-kick rule on goals was originally created for safety reasons back in the days where goaltenders did not wear masks and were not nearly as padded or otherwise as well-protected as they are nowadays. Kicking at the puck in the vicinity of the goalie or a downed defenseman around the crease was a very dangerous proposition.

But some fairly blurry lines with these parts of the rules...

People have asked me over the years about various permutations of the kicking rules. Unlike the somewhat ambiguous "distinct kicking motion" wording in the rulebook, the rules are quite clear in addressing how to handle various events that can happen after a puck is kicked by an attacking player.

* If the kicked puck deflects into the net off the equipment (shin pads, hockey pants, etc) of a player on either team -- attacking or defending, including the goalie -- it is no goal.

* If a kicked puck deflects into the net off the stick of any defending position player EXCEPT the goalie, it's a good goal.

* If a kicked puck deflects into the net off the goalie's stick, it's no goal.

* As stated earlier, if a kicked puck goes in after it grazes the stick of the player who kicked it, it's a good goal. Same thing if it goes off a teammate's stick. The teammate would be the one officially awarded with the goal.

* If the player who kicked the puck dropped his stick on the ice on the play and the kicked puck subsequently hits the stick and goes in the net, it's no goal.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Paul-...icks/196/56894

Anywho...doesn't matter.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I thought it was one of their better games all season from start to finish. The difference tonight was 'puck luck' and Anderson outplaying Hiller.

Also, I thought the goal by Gaudreau was a clear kick. I never understand why some people want players to be able to kick it in. With teams storming the net, players getting knocked down and the resulting chaos, the last thing this league should be allowing is guys kicking in there. I think that would be insanely dangerous at times.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by direwolf

The Flames didn't have a sluggish start in this game. I thought the first few shifts they came out with plenty of jump. The lone Anaheim goal was a complete fluke and really didn't have anything to do with any lack of urgency on the Flames' part.

Respectfully disagree. There were a couple good shifts, but they were trapped by the Getzlaf line a lot in the first. And the goal came about because they were first trapped and then were slow at a clearing attempt. Had Russell not deflected it in, there was a Duck waiting backdoor. So it was fluke, but after being schooled for quite a while by the top line.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

On a side note, the Canucks did something right with a beautiful tribute to Pat Quinn tonight.

[Mattman]

Originally Posted by calumniate

Johnny Messi!!!!

No goal :-D

Diego Maradonna = Hand of God

Johnny Messi = Foot of Gaud???

[BoomBoom]

Originally Posted by calumniate

Johnny Messi!!!!

No goal :-D

Seriously though. Johnny's shiftiness totally reminds me of Leo Messi. Similar style of play.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Where ru Chris O'Sullivan

Ramo should get the next 4 starts,

Gio and Brodie continue to amaze, drive the offense.

Maybe it doesn't matter who's up front,

maybe see how the first one goes, some of you act like Ramo hasn't given up a softie this year

[GioforPM]

The good news: They won the third period handily. They could have won but for some bad puck luck. And one weak goal/bad board play.

[Racki]

I haven't said much about it until tonight but the way Hartley uses Sven is really irritating. When you're down by three and the guy had been looking dangerous you might wanna give the guy a chance. I have little doubt that if you give him one period with Monahan and Glencross they score one. Just try it Bob. Sheesh.