11-25-2014, 12:00 PM
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#2641
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang
Oh hey Bunk.  Any discussion at the office regarding the article? There's not really anything that we didn't already know/assume on the part of the city - there's obviously not much of an appetite for public funds from city council or the citizens. Just curious if there's any reaction to it. |
Of course. We knew this story was coming of course. Interesting they used it on the front page above the fold as part of their redesign launch.
I will say, as the article suggests, there have been a lot of meetings over the past four years. More frequent of late, and some more details around their proposal are starting to emerge (much more recent than the timeframes of the quoted exchanges). But again, not much to really comment on until there's something concrete/formal for the City/Mayor/Council to consider.
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11-25-2014, 12:04 PM
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#2642
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First Line Centre
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let the billionaire pay for his own toys, he wants to increase his profit margins then he can pay for it, the city has better things to spend money on then Mr. Edward's pocketbook.
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11-25-2014, 12:04 PM
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#2643
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Bunk
Markusoff FOIPed the office's communications on the issue.
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Sorry for the ignorance, but what does this mean?
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11-25-2014, 12:07 PM
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#2644
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by MattyC
Sorry for the ignorance, but what does this mean?
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Freedom of Information Policy
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11-25-2014, 12:09 PM
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#2645
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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FTR, I have no problem giving the Flames the land and the city paying for infrastructure changes (most of which are already badely needed). Combining a Crowchild/Bowtrail/Memorial/14th St re-do with the new arena is a perfect way to justify shutting down that area and doing something not just satisfactory, but possibly innovative and interesting. I agree that the City should be paying for new roads, LRT expansions, etc... but in no way shape or form should the city be putting funding into the actual construction of the building itself. Obviously there are mixes (like the possibility of the LRT going right through it), but I like to think that the people we elect, and the people running the Flames, are intelligent enough to figure who should pay for what when it comes to that.
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11-25-2014, 12:11 PM
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#2646
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by 1stLand
The Arena should be built in Balzac as an Arena District with a new stadium, casino, hotels, Condos and a Formula 1 Raceway. We can change Balzac's name to "Arena Towne"
The Flames can change their name to the "Alberta Flames" and the team can make money to pay for the Arena with all the new merchandise sales that stem from the "Atlanta Flames, Flaming A".
The City will extend an LRT Line to the Arena eventually.
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Originally Posted by 1stLand
Design the new arena complex with Bike Lanes and the city will definitely give up the west village lands for free.
Eventually, I would like to see the Flames Management and Players ride their bikes to the Arena. This is more sustainable then them driving their big fancy SUV's to the game.
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Stop.
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11-25-2014, 12:12 PM
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#2647
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quoting two big chunks of neon lime doesn't help either. /sigh
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11-25-2014, 12:14 PM
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#2648
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Nice to see the process may be starting soon. I imagine nobody will be more excited to start talks than Nenshi who loves to debate above all else. It's all part of the process as there will be many disagreements/opposition in between now and the day of the ceremonial shovels.
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11-25-2014, 12:24 PM
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#2649
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Nice to see the process may be starting soon. I imagine nobody will be more excited to start talks than Nenshi who loves to debate above all else. It's all part of the process as there will be many disagreements/opposition in between now and the day of the ceremonial shovels.
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He loves to serve his city above all else. I know people are cynical about politicians, but it's absolutely true, the guy lives and breathes the job.
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11-25-2014, 12:25 PM
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The Flames still own the firepark location do they not?
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11-25-2014, 12:28 PM
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#2651
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Originally Posted by Burke Salad
The Flames still own the firepark location do they not?
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One of the owners does, separately from the Flames ownership.
** It's irrelevant anyway, they are 100% not moving to that ghetto location.
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11-25-2014, 12:31 PM
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#2652
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunk
He loves to serve his city above all else. I know people are cynical about politicians, but it's absolutely true, the guy lives and breathes the job.
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Hang on now, just how much does Spendshi pay you to talk him up like that?
I guess all is lost seeing as there is not a single member of the mayors staff that happens to like the Calgary Flames...
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11-25-2014, 12:31 PM
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#2653
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Originally Posted by cam_wmh
One of the owners does, separately from the Flames ownership.
** It's irrelevant anyway, they are 100% not moving to that ghetto location.
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I was thinking more of land swap plus more from the Flame's persepective to offer city hall.
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11-25-2014, 12:33 PM
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#2654
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Just read the article. At least it is weeks instead of months. If it was as many weeks as it was months, than we should hear something by summer. That is a baby step forward.
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11-25-2014, 12:34 PM
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#2655
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Tyler
Guys, you're missing the most exciting part of the article...
WE ARE WEEKS AWAY FROM AN ANNOUNCEMENT
There ain't no way KK is gonna let us down this time!
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That would be funny if it wasn't so true (and sad). My expectations are super low for this ever being announced.
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11-25-2014, 12:34 PM
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#2656
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I hate how people keep referring to the use of public money. Let's make it real easy. Let use zero public dollars and give right of first refusal for ALL events held the new arena and/or stadium to existing season ticket holders of the Flames' organizations. Any leftover scraps can then be offered to the public. Little do people realized, lots of people use the Dome. I'm sure that they'll be screaming then.
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11-25-2014, 12:34 PM
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#2657
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunk
He loves to serve his city above all else. I know people are cynical about politicians, but it's absolutely true, the guy lives and breathes the job.
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He lives and breathes to argue especially if it's in front of a microphone. I don't think he's a terrible mayor or anything but I don't think he's been fantastic either. He's a bit of a self-promoter and all we have seen since he's come in is annual tax hikes and nothing shows a lack of creativity more than simply upping taxes every year.
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11-25-2014, 12:37 PM
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#2658
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Lifetime Suspension
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Never change Estrada never change
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11-25-2014, 12:39 PM
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#2659
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burke Salad
I was thinking more of land swap plus more from the Flame's persepective to offer city hall.
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Fire Park would be a good location for a new Greyhound station.
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11-25-2014, 12:44 PM
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#2660
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
He lives and breathes to argue especially if it's in front of a microphone. I don't think he's a terrible mayor or anything but I don't think he's been fantastic either. He's a bit of a self-promoter and all we have seen since he's come in is annual tax hikes and nothing shows a lack of creativity more than simply upping taxes every year.
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...and he has a bad habit of throwing in bad jokes when he is in front of said microphones...
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