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Old 11-13-2014, 09:19 AM   #101
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Here's the people I have ill regard for, the ones who drop their cats off at my farm because they figure it's up to me to take care of them. Then these strays hiss and scare my cat so she won't go outside anymore. I put up with them for a couple months hoping they would move on or a coyote would get them, I've never actually killed a dog or cat before, other than having a couple put down, but I didn't even flinch when I took these last 2 out with a 22.

I actually tried the humane society, but they wanted $30 to rent a cat trap, and 2 22 shells are about 6c.
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:21 AM   #102
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Most normal people don't get a pet with the thought that they'll keep it its entire life no matter what.
Barring sickness or disease that severely impact the animals life, most normal people actually do.

You let your cat get fat by not interacting with it enough and he became bored (or in your view - annoying). Your opinions aren't what I would consider normal... or even well adjusted.
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:23 AM   #103
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If you don't have money for winter clothes for your kids plus a spare $2000 if something happens to your dog, you shouldn't get a dog.

Pets, as with kids, are financial commitments. Sounds like you couldn't afford both and your dog paid the price.
Where do you draw the line? I've seen people give their dogs artificial hips, insulin, all sorts of surgeries, tens of thousands.

Besides this dog was really stupid. not even cute stupid. Pretty sure she was missing a chromosone. She had a good 6 years.
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:23 AM   #104
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Dude face it, you dont know how to train animals. When you realize you have failed, you pawn off your mistakes on other people who attempt to rehabilitate the animal from your abuse. DO NOT get another animal, just continue screwing up your own family. Dont get another animal messed up in your obvious mental problems.
Chill out, Yanda. I'm not getting another pet.
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:26 AM   #105
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Chill out, Yanda. I'm not getting another pet.
lets hope so
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:27 AM   #106
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I'll tell you my secret. I'm being honest.

The fourth cat thing - my wife and I were literally talking about this two weeks ago. We don't want an animal in our home (we're pretty clean people), but we were going to get one and let it live in the garage - almost like a farm/barn cat. It's a heated garage so it would be comfortable. Where the plan fell apart is we'd have to leash it to one of the shelves during the day so when we came back at night it wouldn't run out the big door when the cars returned home. Obviously that would be a pretty lame life for the cat and potentially risky with the leash, so we abandoned the plan. But as for just spit balling the thought of it, we were pretty excited for an hour or two.

The three cats I found better homes for? 100% true.

I think if you're trolling, you're being dishonest. I'm always honest and therefore not a troll; however, I do concede that I like these conversations because they can get pretty lively. But again, it's a genuine conversation from my end, so I don't think calling it a troll job is fair.
Of all the times I've read a post on CP with my jaw literally wide open, this one takes the top prize.
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:32 AM   #107
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Of all the times I've read a post on CP with my jaw literally wide open, this one takes the top prize.
Well my garage isn't some dirty crap hole. There are two couches in it, two windows, it's an over-sized double, etc. It's probably better than some apartments. My aunt and uncle have a cat that's super cool that lives in their garage at their farm and we were just kind of picturing a scenario like that. The problem would be the escape attempts and we couldn't come up with a way around that. The only real solution was to come in the man door before pulling into the garage, putting the cat in a kennel, then drive in. That would be a giant PITA, though. So, yeah, I don't know why your jaw would be wide open. It's not that crazy of a plan (although maybe I didn't articulate it well at first, but hopefully it's clear now).
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:35 AM   #108
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Well my garage isn't some dirty crap hole. There are two couches in it, two windows, it's an over-sized double, etc. It's probably better than some apartments. My aunt and uncle have a cat that's super cool that lives in their garage at their farm and we were just kind of picturing a scenario like that. The problem would be the escape attempts and we couldn't come up with a way around that. The only real solution was to come in the man door before pulling into the garage, putting the cat in a kennel, then drive in. That would be a giant PITA, though. So, yeah, I don't know why your jaw would be wide open. It's not that crazy of a plan (although maybe I didn't articulate it well at first, but hopefully it's clear now).
Is your aunt and uncle's cat permitted to leave the garage, see daylight, breathe fresh air etc. by periodically escaping the soul-crushing confines of its 100 square foot garage? Or is it tethered to a shelf all day?
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:53 AM   #109
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Is your aunt and uncle's cat permitted to leave the garage, see daylight, breathe fresh air etc. by periodically escaping the soul-crushing confines of its 100 square foot garage? Or is it tethered to a shelf all day?
Yeah it's free to come and go.

Again, we also determined this was a bad idea for us, as I've said.
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Where do you draw the line? I've seen people give their dogs artificial hips, insulin, all sorts of surgeries, tens of thousands.

Besides this dog was really stupid. not even cute stupid. Pretty sure she was missing a chromosone. She had a good 6 years.
Here's a good spot for you to draw that:

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If you don't have money for winter clothes for your kids plus a spare $2000 if something happens to your dog, you shouldn't get a dog.

Pets, as with kids, are financial commitments. Sounds like you couldn't afford both and your dog paid the price.
Did you seriously expect the dog to stay healthy forever? It's fairly common for an otherwise healthy dog to require $500 - $2000 of medical care over there life span. Also, it's not the dogs fault it's dumb, it's your fault.
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Also, it's not the dogs fault it's dumb, it's your fault.
Are you joking around? If dogs are stupid, it's the owners fault? That doesn't even make sense. Of course some dogs are dumb naturally. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.
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Is your aunt and uncle's cat permitted to leave the garage, see daylight, breathe fresh air etc...
Our cats aren't allowed outside, they are confined to the soul-crushing confines of our house. No fresh air for them!

Of course, I've considered many times that I should just accidentally leave the front door open one night and let the coyotes take care of them in the back 40...
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Are you joking around? If dogs are stupid, it's the owners fault? That doesn't even make sense. Of course some dogs are dumb naturally. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.
Dogs require a good deal of stimulus and training as puppies for proper cognitive development. People who say "it doesn't matter what you do, a dumb dog is a dumb dog" are the people who end up with dumb dogs. People who take pet ownership seriously never seem to have that problem.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:10 AM   #114
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Dogs require a good deal of stimulus and training as puppies for proper cognitive development. People who say "it doesn't matter what you do, a dumb dog is a dumb dog" are the people who end up with dumb dogs. People who take pet ownership seriously never seem to have that problem.
I think you're completely making that up. Do you have any sources to back up such a claim? I'm skeptical because I know that some humans are unintelligent regardless of how much stimulation, education, etc. is invested in them. Why would it be different for dogs?
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:19 AM   #115
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I'll tell you my secret. I'm being honest.

The fourth cat thing - my wife and I were literally talking about this two weeks ago. We don't want an animal in our home (we're pretty clean people), but we were going to get one and let it live in the garage - almost like a farm/barn cat. It's a heated garage so it would be comfortable. Where the plan fell apart is we'd have to leash it to one of the shelves during the day so when we came back at night it wouldn't run out the big door when the cars returned home. Obviously that would be a pretty lame life for the cat and potentially risky with the leash, so we abandoned the plan. But as for just spit balling the thought of it, we were pretty excited for an hour or two.
your wife sounds dumb, you should give her away to a better home or if that can't be done, take her to the river.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:25 AM   #116
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I think you're completely making that up. Do you have any sources to back up such a claim? I'm skeptical because I know that some humans are unintelligent regardless of how much stimulation, education, etc. is invested in them. Why would it be different for dogs?
Pets are as smart as they are trained to be just like schooling for a human.
if you give them the attention when there young and train them without physical abuse you would be suprized what there capable of...

In your case a garage cat (not a city thing) would get bored, pent-up and you would claim it a "bad pet" when in reality your 100% responsible.

Just like a child... you plant your own imprint on there upbringing.

TLDR;
Bad pet owners have bad pets
Good pet owners have good pets
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Pets are as smart as they are trained to be just like schooling for a human.
if you give them the attention when there young and train them without physical abuse you would be suprized what there capable of...

In your case a garage cat (not a city thing) would get bored, pent-up and you would claim it a "bad pet" when in reality your 100% responsible.

Just like a child... you plant your own imprint on there upbringing.

TLDR;
Bad pet owners have bad pets
Good pet owners have good pets
And sometimes good pet owners have bad pets. This is basic stuff. And undeniable.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:40 AM   #118
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Sliver would do himself well to simply come out and call this a big troll job. Because if he's serious that's so much worse. As always a Sliver thread is high entertainment value, low....everything else.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:41 AM   #119
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I think you're completely making that up. Do you have any sources to back up such a claim? I'm skeptical because I know that some humans are unintelligent regardless of how much stimulation, education, etc. is invested in them. Why would it be different for dogs?
Yeah, I know a poster on this very forum this would apply to.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:46 AM   #120
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And sometimes good pet owners have bad pets. This is basic stuff. And undeniable.
Not really, and if they do they probably realize what they did wrong that lead to that.

For example, if a Cat is Fat its from a lack of exercise and fatty foods.
The owner could have avoided this by recognizing the problem, buying some toys and putting away the friskas for a healthier brand.
If they failed to do that then there a bad owner not a good one anyways.

Even then why hate on a fat cat, more to pet bra.
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