11-09-2014, 05:25 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by schteve_d
Edmonton has nothing to lose. Why wouldn't they do it? They are in full desperation, or at least should be, and this could at least have the optics of a bold move. He's relatively local and may even thrive there though I'm not sure he has the inner drive to overcome the culture of that room.
Again, they really have nothing to lose.
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A. He's an underachieving winger with no defensive skills. That's not what they need.
B. Salary cap.
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11-09-2014, 05:27 PM
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#62
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fort McMurray, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
A. He's an underachieving winger with no defensive skills. That's not what they need.
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Yeah, they've proven a real concern for this.
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11-09-2014, 05:28 PM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schteve_d
Again, they really have nothing to lose.
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Actually they do as they are close to the cap and Bourque is under contract for another season. They are already paying a lot of money for some of their bottom 6 forwards. Eakins has enough on his plate just trying to remain employed and doesn't need Bourque's penchant for bad penalties and bonehead plays. If the positives outweighed the negatives he wouldn't be on waivers today.
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11-09-2014, 05:29 PM
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#64
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schteve_d
Edmonton has nothing to lose. Why wouldn't they do it? They are in full desperation, or at least should be, and this could at least have the optics of a bold move. He's relatively local and may even thrive there though I'm not sure he has the inner drive to overcome the culture of that room.
Again, they really have nothing to lose.
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Nothing to lose? Nothing to gain. He sucks defensively and one of the worst defensive team in the NHL is going to pick him up?
Edmonton makes zero sense. They really have nothing to gain. They don't need another forward who is inconsistent and bad defensively.
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11-09-2014, 05:30 PM
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#65
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fort McMurray, AB
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Whoa. I'm not saying it's a good move. I'm saying it's a move that a train wreck of an organization like the Oilers might try to make work.
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11-09-2014, 05:32 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I think we are talking at cross purposes. I don't think they in their right mind would make a move. I guess you are saying, yes, they'd be that dumb.
While I don't disagree, I think they can't afford him anyway. They Have 7 guys over 3 mill already (with 3 over 6 and 2 more over 4).
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11-09-2014, 05:34 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schteve_d
Whoa. I'm not saying it's a good move. I'm saying it's a move that a train wreck of an organization like the Oilers might try to make work.
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I get it now. But by saying they had nothing to lose you made it sound like you thought they should do it.
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11-09-2014, 05:36 PM
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#68
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fort McMurray, AB
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Sorry. I stand firmly in the camp against green text!
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11-09-2014, 05:41 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
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Last ditch effort to get rid of him without taking a contract back or eating salary. Wonder who trades for Bourque after he clears and Montreal agrees to eat some salary?
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11-09-2014, 05:58 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Bourque is the kind of guy you can never give more than a one year contract. When he's desperate and feels threatened he can be good (i.e. after the Hawks cut ties with him).
I don't know if he has that ability to step up now... but giving him a contract longer than one year is always a mistake.
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11-09-2014, 05:59 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
A. He's an underachieving winger with no defensive skills. That's not what they need.
B. Salary cap.
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I think he is actually fairly decent defensively - wasn't he a mainstay on the PK here for a few years, and was a SHG threat?
I still think he is a good player who unfortunately can't play effectively any longer due to constant injuries. I wouldn't be surprised if he still has some concussion symptoms (though I should hope he doesn't, and that the league does a good job of diagnosing it). I agree with the cap-implications - would be very surprised if Edmonton picks him up.
The only teams that can take a chance on him are teams that:
1) Need some size in their lineup
2) Have long-term injuries
3) Have lots of salary cap room next season
I think he clears. Only way he moves is if Montreal retains salary and/or gives enough of a sweetener.
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11-09-2014, 06:04 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by DOOM
What makes him a steal of a 2nd rounder?
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Fucale was widely regarded as the best goalie in the draft and a blue-chip prospect. Some prognosticators pegged him as a top-15 pick. It was surprising when he was still available in the 2nd round.
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11-09-2014, 06:08 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Fucale was widely regarded as the best goalie in the draft and a blue-chip prospect. Some prognosticators pegged him as a top-15 pick. It was surprising when he was still available in the 2nd round.
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And since then he's looked like a guy who was probably drafted too high.
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11-09-2014, 06:08 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Having him back here would have him reunite with Glencross, when together last time, fed laziness off each other.
Glencross broke out of it (for a few years, this year looks like that same Glencross) ,Bourque didn't.
Opportunistic by Feaster, Cammalleri was toxic in the dressing room after his comments the night before, and any sort of return for him was fine with Mtl.
As said before, still recall Bourque shining moment with the Flames, chasing a puck while carrying a clearly broken in half stick for 10+ seconds before getting called on the penalty.
He'll play somewhere this month, Oilers would be an ideal fit. Get MC to manufacture some stats and get MacT on the phone.
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11-09-2014, 06:08 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
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I remember when Kelly Hrudey once said that he had top 10 player potential.
I Lolled
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11-09-2014, 06:09 PM
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#76
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Lifetime Suspension
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The Bourque hate is really revealing for some.
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11-09-2014, 06:22 PM
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#77
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Powerplay Quarterback
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If anyone can motivate Bork, its Dallas Eakins, lol.
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11-09-2014, 06:32 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mango
Bourque was sent to Montreal with prospect Patrick Holland and a second round draft pick on January 12 2012 in exchange for Michael Cammalleri, Karri Rämö and a fifth round draft pick.
Interesting deal to look back on.
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The rare sighting of Feaster fleecing another team. Made a great trade that day if only to get Bourque off the team. Bourque, Holland, Fucale for Cammalleri, Ramo, Culkin. Pretty great right there.
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11-09-2014, 06:44 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Yes, Calgary4Life, he was good on the PK. In his first two years here, before he signed his deal. That deal was like an off switch for his effort level.
It wasn't the injuries. He had the same injury as Brodie and Glencross, and neither had a big setback in their play.
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11-09-2014, 06:44 PM
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#80
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taco.vidal
The Bourque hate is really revealing for some.
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Huh?
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