Oh yeah, we had his son Logan playing in Abbotsford. He was more a ECHL talent even though being a former first rounder. Bobby was a great player though.
I know it's early in the season for McDavid but..... wow
It terrifies me that the Oilers may suck their way into getting Connor McDavid. This is the same feeling I had when Vancouver was up 2-0 in the SCF series versus Boston.
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It terrifies me that the Oilers may suck their way into getting Connor McDavid. This is the same feeling I had when Vancouver was up 2-0 in the SCF series versus Boston.
Unlike the Sabres and Canes the Oilers are unlikely to go all out to suck. In fact they may be dumb enough to make short term moves to try and do something this year.
Unless they win the lottery I doubt they end up bottom of the league and likely not even bottom 5, but when it comes to sucking you can never count the Oulers out.
While the top 10 prospects in any draft tend to get the most attention going into the draft, great teams draft NHL calibre players in all rounds and they also acquire NHL calibre amateur players outside the draft. Out of curiosity I looked up the rosters of the two most successful teams in terms of Stanley cup wins this decade so far, the LA Kings and the Chicago Blackhawks. Below are the players who were part of at least one Stanley Cup winning team for each of these clubs, who were drafted or otherwise acquired as amateurs by that club. I have noted the year, round, and overall number for each player (spoilered for size). Players drafted in the top 10 are in bold.
LA Kings (2012 & 2014):
Spoiler!
Dustin Brown - 2003, 1st Round, 13th Overall
Kyle Clifford - 2009, 2nd Round, 39th Overall Drew Doughty - 2008, 1st Round, 2nd Overall Martin Jones - Undrafted Free Agent, 2008
Dwight King - 2007, 4th Round, 109th Overall
Anze Kopitar - 2005, 1st Round, 11th Overall
Trevor Lewis - 2006, 1st Round, 17th Overall
Alec Martinez - 2007, 4th Round, 95th Overall
Jake Muzzin - Drafted in 2007 (5th Round, 141st Overall) by Pittsburgh. Did not sign, picked up as a free agent by LA in 2010.
Jordan Nolan - 2009, 7th Round, 186th Overall
Tanner Pearson - 2012, 1st Round, 30th Overall
Jonathan Quick - 2005, 3rd Round, 72nd Overall
Tyler Toffoli - 2010, 2nd Round, 47th Overall
Slava Voynov - 2008, 2nd Round, 32nd Overall
To summarize, LA had one player that they drafted in the top 10 on their two Stanley Cup winning teams: Drew Doughty. Chicago had two: Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews. While Doughty played an important role on both of LA's Stanley Cup winning teams, I don't think you can call him the decisive factor on either team. I do think that Kane and Toews, together, make Chicago a great team rather than just a good one. Chicago doesn't win two Stanley Cups without Kane and Toews, but they don't win without Bolland, Crawford (2013 only), Hjalmarsson, Keith, Niemi (2010 only), Saad (2013 only), Seabrook, or Shaw (2013 only) either.
That's why I'm much more interested in the sleepers that will be picked in the latter part of the first round or after the first round. A McDavid or an Eichel may lift a good team to greatness, but on their own, they will not make a bad team great, good, or even average.
While the top 10 prospects in any draft tend to get the most attention going into the draft, great teams draft NHL calibre players in all rounds and they also acquire NHL calibre amateur players outside the draft. Out of curiosity I looked up the rosters of the two most successful teams in terms of Stanley cup wins this decade so far, the LA Kings and the Chicago Blackhawks. Below are the players who were part of at least one Stanley Cup winning team for each of these clubs, who were drafted or otherwise acquired as amateurs by that club. I have noted the year, round, and overall number for each player (spoilered for size). Players drafted in the top 10 are in bold.
LA Kings (2012 & 2014):
Spoiler!
Dustin Brown - 2003, 1st Round, 13th Overall
Kyle Clifford - 2009, 2nd Round, 39th Overall Drew Doughty - 2008, 1st Round, 2nd Overall Martin Jones - Undrafted Free Agent, 2008
Dwight King - 2007, 4th Round, 109th Overall
Anze Kopitar - 2005, 1st Round, 11th Overall
Trevor Lewis - 2006, 1st Round, 17th Overall
Alec Martinez - 2007, 4th Round, 95th Overall
Jake Muzzin - Drafted in 2007 (5th Round, 141st Overall) by Pittsburgh. Did not sign, picked up as a free agent by LA in 2010.
Jordan Nolan - 2009, 7th Round, 186th Overall
Tanner Pearson - 2012, 1st Round, 30th Overall
Jonathan Quick - 2005, 3rd Round, 72nd Overall
Tyler Toffoli - 2010, 2nd Round, 47th Overall
Slava Voynov - 2008, 2nd Round, 32nd Overall
To summarize, LA had one player that they drafted in the top 10 on their two Stanley Cup winning teams: Drew Doughty. Chicago had two: Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews. While Doughty played an important role on both of LA's Stanley Cup winning teams, I don't think you can call him the decisive factor on either team. I do think that Kane and Toews, together, make Chicago a great team rather than just a good one. Chicago doesn't win two Stanley Cups without Kane and Toews, but they don't win without Bolland, Crawford (2013 only), Hjalmarsson, Keith, Niemi (2010 only), Saad (2013 only), Seabrook, or Shaw (2013 only) either.
That's why I'm much more interested in the sleepers that will be picked in the latter part of the first round or after the first round. A McDavid or an Eichel may lift a good team to greatness, but on their own, they will not make a bad team great, good, or even average.
The King also used top 5 pick Brayden Schenn to get Mike Richards.
I truly think McDavid is another Crosby. Some people were comparing McDavid to only Tavares caliber, but McDavid is in Crosby-level territory.
Offensively yes he does look to be on Crosby's level.
It will be interesting to see how well the other parts of his game develop as that is an area Crosby is often underrated in. One of things that had Crosby destroy the Crosby-AO debate was his effort he put into his defensive game and especially FO's.
I see what you did there!
