11-02-2014, 03:19 PM
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#541
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I don't buy the excuse of his wife's murder and the holocaust as being an excuse for what is basically child rape.
I know he's immensely talented, but I refuse to watch anything that will put money towards that pig.
Same with Allen, which is a shame because I used to love his movies.
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I'm not excusing the wanker, just pointing out if you are immensely talented people will find reasons to give you a pass, I don't doubt Ghomeshi's a decent interviewer but that's not exactly a rare skill.
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11-02-2014, 03:31 PM
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#542
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I don't buy the excuse of his wife's murder and the holocaust as being an excuse for what is basically child rape.
I know he's immensely talented, but I refuse to watch anything that will put money towards that pig.
Same with Allen, which is a shame because I used to love his movies.
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Yeah, I hear you.
I love Woody Allen movies, and even a couple of his books, but I can't even watch one of his movies on TV anymore without feeling queasy. I don't know what the truth is about him, but it's just all tainted with creepiness.
It's strange -- they both built their careers and fame on being quirky little dorks. Even before he was a media star, Ghomeshi was in probably the nerdiest, goofiest band around. Moxy Fruvous made the Barenaked Ladies look like Motorhead.
And Woody Allen pretty much invented the ineffectual & hopeless nebbish character.
Behind closed doors, apparently they are bad people. I'm just rambling now, but I have to wonder if there is a connection. Like some sort of "look at me, I'm harmless, come over to my house..." thing going on, and then, they, umm, aren't harmless.
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11-02-2014, 08:57 PM
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#543
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Toronto Star Reporter investigating Jian, gets randomly seated with him at a gala. Strangeness ensues.
http://t.thestar.com/#/article/news/...n_donovan.html
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11-02-2014, 09:29 PM
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#544
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Why would Ghomeshi even go to that dinner?
edit: oh ... Sept 7, nevermind.
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11-02-2014, 09:42 PM
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#545
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Roberto Veri used to work for CBC's Q with Jian Ghomeshi. He witnessed harassment that he never reported, until now. Also: the extraordinary circumstances that led to Ghomeshi's downfall.
http://canadalandshow.com/podcast/we...new-about-jian
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11-03-2014, 04:52 AM
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#546
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My take on CBC and the Ghomeshi scandal:
http://purplehelmetrod.blogspot.ca/2...should-we.html
It may be of interest to members who are unfamiliar to the Jian Ghomeshi affair, as there are quite a few links to stories in regards to this issue, but I try to make a case for the privatization of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
The fallout from the scandal could give the CBC a black eye, as it was not exactly a secret to fellow employees, in regards to Jian Ghomashi's treatment of women. Complaints were made to the union, yet nothing was ever done about it, until years later.
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11-03-2014, 05:16 AM
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#547
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Originally Posted by Jets4Life
My take on CBC and the Ghomeshi scandal:
http://purplehelmetrod.blogspot.ca/2...should-we.html
It may be of interest to members who are unfamiliar to the Jian Ghomeshi affair, as there are quite a few links to stories in regards to this issue, but I try to make a case for the privatization of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
The fallout from the scandal could give the CBC a black eye, as it was not exactly a secret to fellow employees, in regards to Jian Ghomashi's treatment of women. Complaints were made to the union, yet nothing was ever done about it, until years later.
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Your argument is based on a pretty flawed premise, that private companies do a better job of dealing with sexual harassment/assault in the workplace. I'm sure many of the ladies on this board, or anyone who's even remotely familiar with the corporate scene in their respective city could easily assure you that this simply isn't the case.
I think the coverage of Nathan Cirillo's murder by the CBC, compared with the travesty that is American media displays the value of the CBC. The country needs a public broadcaster whose content isn't directly influenced by private interests and sponsors, or controlled and manipulated my a single person's extremist ideology (i.e. someone like Rupert Murdoch).
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11-03-2014, 05:26 AM
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#548
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Your argument is based on a pretty flawed premise, that private companies do a better job of dealing with sexual harassment/assault in the workplace. I'm sure many of the ladies on this board, or anyone who's even remotely familiar with the corporate scene in their respective city could easily assure you that this simply isn't the case.
I think the coverage of Nathan Cirillo's murder by the CBC, compared with the travesty that is American media displays the value of the CBC. The country needs a public broadcaster whose content isn't directly influenced by private interests and sponsors, or controlled and manipulated my a single person's extremist ideology (i.e. someone like Rupert Murdoch).
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I agree I spent too much time weighing in on the Ghomeshi affair. I just question why a Government needs to run a TV station at all? Why can't we model CBC after American station PBS, where they seek donations and pledge drives, in order to raise money for programming?
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11-03-2014, 05:47 AM
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#549
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Wow! Fascinating.
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11-03-2014, 07:36 AM
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#550
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Originally Posted by Jets4Life
I agree I spent too much time weighing in on the Ghomeshi affair. I just question why a Government needs to run a TV station at all? Why can't we model CBC after American station PBS, where they seek donations and pledge drives, in order to raise money for programming?
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I think PBS is a very solid network and they do a lot of things really well, especially the Ken Burns stuff and their other documentaries, but there are a number of characteristics that differentiate the CBC from PBS. For one, PBS has a much larger donor base to draw from. You've complained in your blog that the CBC lost the rights to the NHL, which was clearly a financial decision, yet you're suggesting a model that would leave the CBC even more strapped for cash than it currently is. Secondly, PBS is just one television channel. The CBC is several television channels and several radio channels. Lastly, the CBC has to maintain a French language component, which again leads to higher production costs than what PBS has to do.
It's really an apples to oranges comparison.
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11-03-2014, 07:39 AM
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#551
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When Sportsnet cancels CBC's Hockey Night in Canada, in 6 years, we'll see the CBC disappear about 4 years after that.
This is the last 10 years of the CBC.
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11-03-2014, 07:41 AM
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#552
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More people should give CBC a chance, specifically radio one. Love that station.
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11-03-2014, 08:59 AM
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#553
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One of the things that's about to hit the fan is that the CBC was claiming that they didn't know until this scumbag basically came forward and the reports started coming out.
I saw a report this morning that the CBC had stopped sending interns from colleges to his show before the investigation even started happening.
The next logical path is to see if any of these girls were offered any kind of payouts from the CBC to keep quiet.
Personally I don't really watch the CBC network except for hockey. There isn't a must see show for me on the network. I do watch their Newsworld on occasion as I watch all news networks.
I stopped listening to CBC radio quite a while ago when I got satellite radio.
I also noticed that most of the better Canadian content shows aren't on CBC.
I would be perfectly content if they kept the news network funded and went to a donations, advertising, pay for channel for the regular CBC. And made the radio more reliant of ad selling for their funding.
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11-03-2014, 09:07 AM
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#554
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HNIC, 5th Estate and occasionally The National, is all I watch. Before that, when I was younger, all I watched were cartoons on Saturday mornings.
I'm 34 now. So assume I started watching cartoons at age 4: for 30 years CBC has had maybe 5 programs that I watch. That seems kind of low.
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11-03-2014, 09:11 AM
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#555
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Originally Posted by oilers_fan
More people should give CBC a chance, specifically radio one. Love that station.
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At this point, Radio One is part of the problem.
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11-03-2014, 09:12 AM
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#556
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Students at Western Ontario University were warned about interning at Q two years ago.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014...professor.html
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11-03-2014, 09:13 AM
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#557
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Norm!
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too lazy at work to look up and post that story, thanks Nik
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11-03-2014, 09:13 AM
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#558
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I used to Watch "Wild Roses" back in 2008 until they cancelled it after 1 season.
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11-03-2014, 09:19 AM
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#559
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HNIC is the only thing I watch on CBC. I can't really think of anything else over the years that I have consistantly tuned in for.
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11-03-2014, 09:28 AM
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#560
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I'm not going to spend a lot of time commenting in this thread, but I thought that I would say a few things. First of all, Canada doesn't have the population base to create enough competition for a new network. We have a couple of companies that already show a serious bias toward sensationalism, and then the CBC. The existing competitors wouldn't allow a new network to emerge, much like they are suppressing the inclusion of new cell and internet providers. I'm ok with the CBC taking a slight loss on a year to year basis to receive a second viewpoint in relation to news and arts.
As for the Gomeshi thing, I have a little knowledge of what has been occurring, outside of what is being reported so far, and this guy has quite a history as a predator. I wouldn't mind at all seeing the book thrown at him. The discussion is generalized around whether he will given an opportunity in the broadcasting field again, but if enough women come forward to allow the ones who are truly scared to step forward, jail time is a real possibility.
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